[0:10:02 - 0:10:10] Yeah, we can never forget. But, um, but let's get to you. So where did you grow up? Pleasant Grove, Utah.

[0:10:10 - 0:10:35] I'm fifth generation. Pleasant Grove, Utah. My ancestors came from Scandinavia, from Denmark and emigrated in the 1860s. They were early converts to the the Mormon church of the Church of Jesus Christ, the Latter-day Saints and settled in this small community at the base of Mount Timpanogas, which is this incredible mountain backdrop in Utah.

[0:12:44 - 0:12:53] So you still live in the same place? I've lived almost my entire life in this small community of Pleasant Grove, Utah, that I love.

[0:53:36 - 0:53:47] The impact that Mr. Blasdell, who was our favorite teacher, he taught English and German at Pleasant Grove High School,

[0:58:40 - 0:59:02] But my best friends and I, we were 12, 13 years old in the mid 80s at that same time period. And we, we were convinced that there was, there was nefarious activity going on and, you know, under the surface of small town pleasant grove and, and there were mysteries to be solved.