[0:03:22 - 0:03:37] And of course, at a long form conversation, we discussed the history of covert UFO research programs, their connection with Robert Oppenheimer in
the Manhattan Project, white presidents and elected officials may have been shielded from the UFO secrets in the past.
[0:20:53 - 0:21:13] I would probably ask starbocker, Oppenheimer, and be like, what was your thought process in the 40s and 50s, you know, scrolling this away, I mean, besides overlaying
the Manhattan Project secrecy, because often I was the one who created the classification that included the UFO stuff.
[0:24:09 - 0:24:14] The Manhattan Project would have a custody of it and then it would go into the atomic