[0:33:47 - 0:33:54] I mean, this is the problem with people these days is they put too much validation into people who realistically hate to say it this way.

[1:25:25 - 1:25:30] Miter, Rand, Center for Naval Analysis, the IDA Institute for Defense Analysis.

[1:25:50 - 1:25:55] You have the IDA, you have the CNA, the Center for Naval Analysis.