[397.00s - 404.00s] Well, in general, there was a big o
scillating signal coming out of the thing that ran about 30 seconds or so.
[621.00s - 629.00s] But remote viewing and then being able to interact with the equipment and change the o
scillation seems very different, right?
[770.00s - 788.00s] And I'll be honest, I still don't really have a clue about exactly what's going on other than con
sciousness seems to be expandable out into the environment in a way that we don't usually consider could possibly be the case.
[1279.00s - 1287.00s] So maybe this is some aspect that's at least at the uncon
scious level happening all the time.
[2330.00s - 2340.00s] And so we got that in publication in a book we wrote about all this stuff before it was known in the
scientific community.
[3639.00s - 3648.00s] Even though you have an official program, I mean you got Top Secret,
SCI, Gamma, HCS, got all these clearances.
[5831.00s - 5839.00s] We've talked to one of my colleagues, Eric Davis, is one of my senior
scientific advisors.
[7204.00s - 7217.00s] So, perhaps he was able to access this with states of con
sciousness because he was so devout in his faith that upon seeing this, the experience was so overwhelming that he was somehow able to access this energy.
[7237.00s - 7243.00s] You would say, well, if someone's able to control o
scillations, you're doing something with your mind that shouldn't be possible.
[7271.00s - 7293.00s] Right. And if these are very unique moments where this is an extremely devout person who obviously was a monk, was probably meditating and achieving this insane state of con
sciousness that's almost impossible to get to unless you're committed as long as he was, unless you're as dedicated as he was, and then he has this overwhelming moment.
[7298.00s - 7311.00s] But the idea is that if there is energy that's allowing a person using their mind to do this, that somehow or another if this energy could be accessed through
science, through physics, through engineering.
[8150.00s - 8161.00s] Is part of the limitation this thing that we're discussing earlier about compartmentalization and the lack of ability of other
scientists to get access to this material so they can collaborate?
[8220.00s - 8228.00s] They couldn't even bring them up to the top floor for their own
scientists to look at because it was so compartmentalized.
[8229.00s - 8238.00s] And so that was part of the deal where we said, okay, well, give them to us and then we'll come in the front door and give them to your
scientists.
[8555.00s - 8561.00s] But it may have something to do even with some of the con
sciousness stuff because ordinarily, you know,
[8596.00s - 8603.00s] is there a possibility that there are quantum aspects in ordinary life, in ordinary con
sciousness?
[8606.00s - 8612.00s] The anesthesiologist says, well, when I give somebody a certain anesthetic, they lose con
sciousness.
[8612.00s - 8620.00s] So there must be something about the anesthesia that grabs onto whatever is responsible for con
sciousness.
[8656.00s - 8667.00s] So the idea that even in our con
sciousness, there are mechanisms for detecting quantum signals is like a whole new area to investigate.
[8667.00s - 8678.00s] And so there are some, you know, biological and con
sciousness-oriented experimenters that are taking a look at this idea that, OK,