[2:04:20 - 2:04:34] James McDonald was a physicist at Arizona State who after seeing a UFO at Savannah River site nuclear facility at South Carolina was made a public mockery of Harry Turner was the head of the Australian nuclear program.

[1:11:37 - 1:11:45] James McDonald's famous physicist who was kind of very marginalized over this topic. He was at, I think, Arizona State, I believe.