[0:01:30 - 0:01:59] Yeah so first of all it's not like that I got like contacts to be in
Congress it's in DC you know I worked for many months on on both of the hearings the idea or the aim for me was always to try to get the voices of people who deserve or worthy of an element of our trust who say hey look I was involved in this I have some particular knowledge about this.
[0:01:59 - 0:02:23] Hopefully we vet people to a degree where when we get them up to that level with their talent
congressional members like what they experienced saw had accidental exposure to or directly worked on that we can bring it on to that kind of that stage of
Congress where sorry let me silence my phone.
[0:02:51 - 0:03:16] We held a
congressional hearing in DC there was a mock
congressional hearing in 2013 called the citizen hearing on disclosure had 40 witnesses over seven days five
congressional members one senator they were former members and we tried to replicate what this would look like and then all of a sudden we've got the first hearing in 50 years it kind of shocked me too.
[0:03:17 - 0:03:44] So getting involved with that what I have been trying to do is bring credible people with what would seem to be incredible claims but have direct knowledge in some way and connect them with members of
Congress and Senate and try to get them to tell their story whistleblowers like straight up whistleblowers now we still need to decide the value of that information even with Immaculate Constellation.
[0:03:59 - 0:04:25] But understand when you bring people forward behind closed doors and you have them meet with the house and Senate and staffers that does so much for the American public's understanding but there's a limit when you bring them out forward under on television in a
congressional hearing then we need to contend with that information we need to vet it we need to contend with it.
[0:04:48 - 0:05:08] People are going to they have you know lied about kind of what my motivation was for getting the record straight in that hearing and I understand that you know they say that so I delivered the Immaculate Constellation documents to
Congress it was an over a two month process it was a really distinct process.
[0:05:18 - 0:05:33] You know the individual had testified prior behind closed doors but this was to prep
Congress for being able to accept hey there's a person behind this you're not being fooled like this is a government employee who has something to say that I think is valuable.
[0:05:34 - 0:05:50] So imagine for like a couple months i'm really putting the like canary in the coal mine you know kind of like testing out the process when
Congress says we can protect you whistleblower you know we're testing that out to see if it's true.
[0:06:32 - 0:06:43] I waited to that last morning to have one copy that had a identifying mark so that when it was copied and put on
congressional record.
[0:06:44 - 0:06:57] It is absolute it is authorized is correct and accurate information so I had like a huge shock and surprise when they misrepresented that two and a half month process of getting something onto
congressional record.
[0:07:53 - 0:08:00] I just brought a whistleblower in gave you the documents made sure you had time to vet them so you could put them on
congressional record.
[0:08:01 - 0:08:28] Why lie so it was just so bizarre to me like i still don't know why like i still don't but um i think when we're asking for transparency on the UFO issue and we are putting our trust in people that are supposed to represent us in
congress we should know the ones that are shooting us straight and repurchase rep Luna so far everybody has shot straight.
[0:09:52 - 0:10:08] My conclusion is that there are more people coming forward and they want to and when i say they i mean the people that are influenced in
congress from forces and individuals and corporations and finances out there.
[0:10:08 - 0:10:16] side of
congress their influence to show you that they are the ones that you should come to.
[0:11:11 - 0:11:21] But in a
congressional setting or any political setting live on TV I don't think anyone should be choosing what gets presented and what doesn't get presented.
[0:13:13 - 0:13:25] I'll tell you a fact the moment that I submitted outside of a few trusted
congressional members the entire Immaculate Constellation report.
[0:16:00 - 0:16:10] And when I saw the way that they were manipulating reality I mean look they fabricated
congressional record this was kind of like a gift to me and George.
[0:16:11 - 0:16:37] I'm going to be really clear they fabricated
congressional record and if you don't know what I'm talking about it's the 12 pages that whole fiasco I was asked to write an introduction into the whistleblower and why the whistleblower is not going to be there that day and also what it was to contextualize that 11 pages I was asked to do that so I did that.
[0:16:37 - 0:17:07] When they Nancy Mase held up that thing she says here are the 12 pages my question on Twitter was well where are the 12 pages you only uploaded 11 and right after that somebody put on
congressional record a blank 12 page that should be obvious to people if they're invested in keeping a very simple clerical error a very simple lie to you that it wasn't a process I went through.
[0:17:07 - 0:17:12] With accountability and oversight and with
congressional members to get that on the
congressional record.
[0:17:13 - 0:17:27] Then why would they why would they make up this this 12 page I mean you're literally taking a blank page and fabricating it for
congressional record to try to eliminate the idea that my entire packet submission to them was 12 pages.
[0:17:28 - 0:17:35] Why would you do that why would you go to that extent to fabricate
congressional record I mean and you tell me.
[0:19:23 - 0:19:41] I'm going to I guess it depends who you ask it's a very subtle thing to me it completely destroyed my faith in some of the working group within
Congress that it is trying to look we're asking for transparency.
[0:19:42 - 0:19:50] And then you overtly lie and fabricate
congressional record maybe even unknown reasons to me like I don't fully grasp it yet.
[0:23:03 - 0:23:27] I thought really hard for that you see me in my show you know officially being able to ask Louis Elizondo because he's always said he would testify and that's what everybody wanted was Louis Elizondo just has fight under oh and the reason we wanted that and the public wanted that is because it's different like going on a TV show or a podcast and like being under oath and being grilled by
Congress.
[0:29:36 - 0:30:05] I think that he was thinking members maybe in
Congress do and the financial backing behind those individuals who I imagine one day have delusions of presidency potentially and they're planning five steps ahead so that was really honest of him and I wonder does that mean as
Congress even the way to go with this now to get progress is that something someone like yourself is now looking going to put all this work in I've knocked on all these doors literally knocked on the doors.
[0:30:09 - 0:30:35] Yes, you're reading the room correctly, you know you got that interview with the representative of Burtch at and if people go back and watch that it was featured in my series because it was happening in real time and the producers were like holy shit he just said the quiet part out loud, you know which is that there is influence outside of
Congress that is somehow orchestrating the the emerging UAP narrative shaping it.
[0:30:41 - 0:31:04] I feel like I don't have to say it people need to pay attention for themselves but that is to my best assessment what you're seeing is outside influence in
Congress realizing they can't take back the grudge testified which was a sneak attack they can't take it back that UAP UFOs are real that they're made up.
[0:31:09 - 0:31:33] And now they're trying to shape the narrative to spoon feed the way that they want and there's got to be gain and you got to think about that what would be the gain of propping up like a puppet journalist next to you know a puppet
Congress person who is they literally said in the hearing that they were told not to ask certain questions representative Burtch it on your show.
[0:31:43 - 0:31:58] That you got to raise a lot of money and you're beholden to financial powers outside of
Congress and the he'd hate to have that job that in fact he thinks he'll never have that job so he was a little deflated with that said we can't throw the baby out with the bath water.
[0:31:58 - 0:32:08] There is a place for
Congress there is a place for helping whistleblowers to come forth through accountability and oversight.
[0:33:03 - 0:33:20] That they want to know the truth about this what where does it leave us I think
Congress should keep moving forward and I think we should be very have a have a strict eye on how it is they present information we should get the inside story every time that there's a new hearing whether I.
[0:35:15 - 0:35:35] And since then it seems like now we've gone from a place of having kind of one focal point to having lots of little focal points and we've got the soul foundation we've got Jeremy and George we've got Lou we've got
congressional caucus trying to do something they've got whistleblowers now coming out through other journalists at Ross Colter.
[0:44:01 - 0:44:13] But let's so to summarize I think this is a good one to kick off from K. R. Says so what is the next move with
Congress continue to work together for more hearings or work around them due to lack of trust.
[0:44:24 - 0:44:42] Congress itself moving this forward has done a lot for knowledge and understanding on the UFO topic so despite the fact that I saw shenanigans and despite the fact that I had to endure some of that which by the way people should be more concerned about this isn't about me this is about us it's about you.
[0:44:42 - 0:45:11] I don't know if that's clear to people yet but I think over time it will be but I think we need to utilize every piece of armament we have to shake the trees on this subject I am willing to work with
Congress I am willing to work with accountability oversight I am just asking for no fuckery I am asking for straight shooting I am absolutely willing to continue to help because there are great people who want to know the truth who are fighting for the truth again.
[0:45:12 - 0:45:30] I am just asking for the representative of the UNI and I have demonstrated to me that they are willing to push even though it's not great for their personal lives and a lot of ways they are willing to push for it so with
Congress not without just keep them accountable.
[0:52:42 - 0:53:11] I think we should be highly aware that they said in
Congress that certain questions were not to be asked I think we should be highly aware of when representative Birchett referenced financial interest in
Congress and I think we should be highly aware of the financial influences that are now tied to the UFO.
[0:56:28 - 0:56:57] Yeah that's a complex issue I'm surprised he brought it up it's like front loading you know criminality you're like hey by the way we might have done this and you know we should have some forgiveness I don't think he's holy wrong but what he's talking about is the black budget and early on my days investigating this UFO topic like way before I ever said anything publicly I actually went down to the library of
congress and I calculated for a friend the American black budget for that year.
[0:56:57 - 0:57:25] It was really bizarre went to DC went to library of
congress went through the budget line items and they literally said on the sheets of paper like black budget like this is stuff that
Congress doesn't even know about so we're talking about laundering money I mean that's what we're doing we're talking about laundering taxpayer money to you to utilize it in different ways now of course there's an argument for that like if we were in the cold war and we were in a in a race for nuclear armament.