[0:03:47 - 0:04:06] And I went to a lot of the various mutual UFO network, Mufon conferences. And I was frustrated at the Mufon conferences because they didn't talk about the things I wanted to talk about, which was, well, I wanted to talk about crash hardware and UFO parts and physical evidence.

[0:12:08 - 0:12:15] the Mufon conference in essence and that you everybody had to submit a paper. And that always helped

[2:26:32 - 2:26:39] many of his secretarial office files are all at MuFon headquarters the Mutual Dufone Network

[2:36:28 - 2:36:35] mufon or qfos or solo group or all the podcasters or everybody trying to advance the cause and do

[0:32:25 - 0:32:27] Through Mufon I believe has someone...

[1:49:59 - 1:50:03] Looking at that, and we were going to throw in all kind of stuff from Mufon. We were working with Mufon.

[0:24:53 - 0:24:56] trying, because he was in the UFO field, it was part of Mufon and all this stuff.

[0:28:57 - 0:28:59] Center or Mufon.

[1:01:11 - 1:01:18] like Mufon that are doing that. And I recently just saw an iPhone video that was very compelling.