[0:13:15 - 0:13:29] And then I was also living as we had discussed prior. I decided to raise my family on an island in the middle of the Che
sapeake Bay because DC was just not for me not a great place to raise two girls, young girls.
[0:25:41 - 0:25:46] You got the blue badge, which means you have a comments from out. And then if you go into a certain, like a
SAP F facility.
[0:25:46 - 0:25:51] So, if you think a skiff is something, try getting into a
SAP F facility. That's like a vault within a vault within a vault.
[0:26:23 - 0:26:30] Truth be told, those are for our guys. We use
SAP Fs and we use skiffs for our own people.
[0:26:38 - 0:26:43] But for the most part, you don't get into a
SAP F unless you're right on and you don't get into a skiff.
[0:26:46 - 0:26:56] So I think one of the things that often gets mixed up online when people are looking at the alleged history here of like the program is the whole all
SAP and A-Tip thing.
[0:27:18 - 0:27:31] had basically started this thing called O
SAP and was saying we need to look into not just our history with UAP, but we need to look into what this is from a national security threat perspective.
[0:34:13 - 0:34:19] I can't tell you really much about O
SAP because I wasn't my focus. I can tell you about my involvement with A-Tip.
[0:34:48 - 0:34:58] And as all
SAP faded away, A-Tip kind of contracted, meaning we really, we've limited the number of contractors that were involved.
[0:35:27 - 0:35:36] But the people who are involved with O
SAP when you come into it and A-Tip on the inside of the government, it seems like that group is kind of the same.
[0:35:41 - 0:35:48] So a lot of the core expertise that were in O
SAP came over to A-Tip and stayed with us, right?
[0:35:48 - 0:35:55] But there was also a lot that were like, O
SAP, I think with big ol'o on the contract, I had like, I think the digital list was like 100 and some people.
[0:36:37 - 0:36:47] So it, it totally, totally get it. And I think even, even some O
SAP and A-Tip guys might even be kind of confused because some of them weren't there for every meeting, right?
[0:36:59 - 0:37:06] Essentially, it's not like you're walking into places and there's a giant sign on the door. Welcome to the A-Tip meeting. Welcome to the O
SAP meeting.
[0:37:34 - 0:37:46] But essentially to keep it simple, maybe the focus of the exact types of events you're looking for or, or context of UAP technically like has a shift or whatever between O
SAP and A-Tip.
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