[0:02:04 - 0:02:10] This follow-up should get crazier because the
UFO world has gone nuts since we last spoke.
[0:02:40 - 0:02:45] We're an unprecedented territory where we have somebody coming out, a
UFO whistleblower
[0:06:17 - 0:06:24] scheme where
UFO legacy programs are actually taking people in third world countries like
[0:11:43 - 0:11:49] You know, the main sort of outfit studying
UFOs from a public, you know, perspective.
[0:12:02 - 0:12:08] think that the overrated elements of
UFOs are just just focused on like metamaterials.
[0:25:17 - 0:25:21] But, you know, Corso would talk about stuff like a
UFO working group, which there's reasons
[0:27:04 - 0:27:09] to engage with more
UFO research if you can a become cleared and be give something back.
[0:27:14 - 0:27:19] Canada's first
UFO investigation group, followed up by project second story.
[0:27:26 - 0:27:31] He knew that a couple more things, but he also said that the US authority study
UFOs were
[0:27:47 - 0:27:52] He was named in a conversation to William Steinman,
UFO researcher that one of the attendees
[0:27:52 - 0:27:58] of these meetings in the 1950s about
UFO crash retrievals was Dr. Eric A. Walker.
[0:30:47 - 0:30:51] And numerous mentions of witnesses who had observed recovered
UFOs and kind of cutaway
[0:30:51 - 0:30:55] diet rams accompanying the
UFOs and how in certain retrieval cases there would seem to
[0:38:36 - 0:38:40] Sure, it may seem a bit strange, but we're talking about
UFO legacy programs and deep underground
[0:44:01 - 0:44:06] And so, you know, he might know a thing or two about
UFOs from that, not just the ASAP,
[0:44:19 - 0:44:25] Stated, he learned that in 1986, there was a group created called the
UFO Working Group,
[0:44:25 - 0:44:29] which was created to study and kind of manipulate
UFOs, reverse engineering and so forth.
[0:45:02 - 0:45:07] which was a large event classified with DOE controls to study
UFO reverse engineering
[0:45:30 - 0:45:34] Well, it's clearly this sort of working group to figure out like the physics around
UFOs.
[0:47:25 - 0:47:29] He's brought a lot of exposure to the
UFO world and he should be really vindicated and
[0:47:53 - 0:47:59] But in 1997,
UFO researcher Bill Hamilton, William Hamilton III who wrote the book Cosmic
[0:48:02 - 0:48:06] He had been in contact with Greer and this
UFO researcher who I think is one of the most
[0:49:32 - 0:49:38] I mean, Greer's a big proprietor that Dougway Proving Grounds out in Utah saw a lot of
UFO [0:56:50 - 0:56:56] to come willingly, especially when it comes to
UFO legacy program operations.
[0:57:22 - 0:57:28] You know, famous for having claimed of, you know, reverse engineered
UFOs at Area 51S4.
[0:58:27 - 0:58:33] It was the first to buy Area 51 or
UFOs and flying saucers from Jeremy Corbell and his
[1:04:27 - 1:04:32] We also called
UFOs unfunded opportunities, said that we have
UFOs and they have
UFOs.
[1:04:38 - 1:04:42] a lot of the
UFOs and maybe we needed to take it back into the hands of the U.S.
[1:08:01 - 1:08:06] these, you know, high energy experiments, like it makes sense that
UFOs show up around
[1:10:05 - 1:10:11] off of the vital study of
UFOs, the public facing stuff was relegated to Project Blue
[1:14:47 - 1:14:50] Winebrenner would be asked all the time about
UFOs because Robert Emma Nager would go
[1:14:58 - 1:15:02] Blah, blah, blah, blah, while taking a book off his shelf and giving him a book about
UFOs.
[1:15:22 - 1:15:27] Sammy, are you in touch with any
UFO whistleblowers, not whistleblowers yet?
[1:27:16 - 1:27:22] So what else gives you conviction that this is true and that we do have flyable
UFOs because
[1:31:03 - 1:31:07] And we know from William Steinman, this great researcher,
UFO researcher, that this guy,
[1:40:01 - 1:40:06] I think Hollywood has been engaging in soft
UFO disclosure for 30 or 40 years.
[1:41:53 - 1:41:57] When I ask him, are there, is there anything sort of useful or applicable in the
UFO story?
[1:44:20 - 1:44:26] So I think it seems Spielberg definitely has been fed some really interesting
UFO stuff
[1:45:06 - 1:45:10] But like if you go talk to Richard Dolan, he's a super deep
UFO researcher.
[1:45:12 - 1:45:18] They're in these suits and they show up after
UFO abduction experiences,
UFO sightings.
[1:46:42 - 1:46:46] really like making that much money now off of
UFOs and it happened after we wrote communion
[1:50:03 - 1:50:10] A lot of that fell into the psyche of the
UFO community because the Bob Lazar and then
[1:51:27 - 1:51:36] So in 1998,
UFO magazine published a story by a pseudonym Greg Halifax about sedge masters,
[1:51:36 - 1:51:42] a story about somebody who is brought into a
UFO crash retrieval program called Zodiac.
[1:52:52 - 1:52:55] And this details the majestic 12 is supposed
UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering
[1:53:24 - 1:53:28] So some might suggest in the realm of
UFO study that Zodiac is another name from
[1:56:05 - 1:56:12] Cause they're the popular view, like whether those kind of old school like
UFO researchers,
[1:56:12 - 1:56:17] like Robert Hastings, you know, who wrote
UFOs and nukes, is that these were, this was
[1:56:22 - 1:56:25] You're giving it to this film producers, friends with all these
UFO researchers, Jamie
[1:58:45 - 1:58:54] If you were to simulate back then, if a
UFO issue were a thing and we had exotic materials
[2:00:52 - 2:00:58] a new name, the
UFO working group and got new blood like Albert Stubbelbine and some NSA
[2:01:17 - 2:01:22] of like, you know, all
UFO oversight is this great article by Chris Sharp at the Liberation
[2:01:44 - 2:01:50] They were sort of in charge of like the initial
UFO, you know, custody and I think we
[2:02:04 - 2:02:09] She's really interested in the
UFO thing, but she was actually special assistant to George
[2:02:58 - 2:03:07] Warner IV about standing over a
UFO that can employ exotic flight principles in modern
[2:03:58 - 2:04:03] early
UFO crash and how the US started to get involved with this stuff and all the guys
[2:05:18 - 2:05:23] to the head of Canadian defense, wanting to bring the Canadian people up to speed on
UFO [2:06:26 - 2:06:29] Once he sees the
UFO he's taken in by these guys in DOE's range jackets, he's flown
[2:07:03 - 2:07:08] with the Russians on the
UFO question because we were worried that they'd mistake it
[2:07:12 - 2:07:17] So maybe there is some sort of international space program around the
UFO thing, I don't
[2:09:21 - 2:09:25] a scary world and I almost don't even love talking about
UFOs in this context because
[2:11:15 - 2:11:19] Is it just like truth seeking or how do you have a hope for how this sort of
UFO thing
[2:14:12 - 2:14:18] I think it's sort of, you know, the two sort of mantras in
UFO research world are like,
[2:22:54 - 2:23:00] just go, go through a long list of
UFO sightings and projects in the 20th century.
[2:23:07 - 2:23:12] Magnet project, second story, grudge, sign, blue book, all sorts of
UFO programs around
[2:23:12 - 2:23:17] the world, numerous sightings, private corporations contracted to look at
UFOs and batel.
[2:23:48 - 2:23:51] And if you're still just trying to figure out, or do
UFOs exist, just go look at all the