[0:05:01 - 0:05:07] when you got to A
tip and started working on UAP, you, you had 11, 12 years or
[0:26:46 - 0:26:56] So I think one of the things that often gets mixed up online when people are looking at the alleged history here of like the program is the whole all SAP and A-
Tip thing.
[0:26:56 - 0:27:01] It's like eventually it was known as A-
Tip. We'll get into that whole acronym and whatever soon.
[0:31:19 - 0:31:33] Then it became when a
tip became a
tip itself and the all set program kind of faded off. When was that 2012 2013. So the contract for all set ended in 2012, I believe, went from eight nine 10 11 12 so five years.
[0:33:34 - 0:33:56] So anyway, long story short, the A-
Tip piece was really more focused on nuts and bolts. So we were looking at military encounters, aircraft encounters, Navy ship encounters with UAP and things that we were picking up, not just with gun camera footage and flea footage, pod footage, things that we could also cooperate with radar data, hard data, right?
[0:34:03 - 0:34:13] So you had several issues going on. And so the A-
Tip program was initially, you know, some people, depending who you talk to and what day of the week it is, they'll tell you a slight variation of it.
[0:34:13 - 0:34:19] I can't tell you really much about OSAP because I wasn't my focus. I can tell you about my involvement with A-
Tip.
[0:34:20 - 0:34:30] From my understanding and from my observations, because A-
Tip became a very legitimate program and is still recognized how you can talk to very read other folks are like, it was real, you know, I don't know if that's how you're doing.
[0:34:48 - 0:34:58] And as all SAP faded away, A-
Tip kind of contracted, meaning we really, we've limited the number of contractors that were involved.
[0:35:27 - 0:35:36] But the people who are involved with OSAP when you come into it and A-
Tip on the inside of the government, it seems like that group is kind of the same.
[0:35:41 - 0:35:48] So a lot of the core expertise that were in OSAP came over to A-
Tip and stayed with us, right?
[0:35:55 - 0:36:02] By the time we were really focusing on the A-
Tip piece, we had really very, very few contractors.
[0:36:37 - 0:36:47] So it, it totally, totally get it. And I think even, even some OSAP and A-
Tip guys might even be kind of confused because some of them weren't there for every meeting, right?
[0:36:59 - 0:37:06] Essentially, it's not like you're walking into places and there's a giant sign on the door. Welcome to the A-
Tip meeting. Welcome to the OSAP meeting.
[0:37:34 - 0:37:46] But essentially to keep it simple, maybe the focus of the exact types of events you're looking for or, or context of UAP technically like has a shift or whatever between OSAP and A-
Tip.
[0:39:10 - 0:39:28] Because we're now we're talking mul
tiple domains. We're talking mul
tiple environments that we are, we are encountering these these things. And so I think part of the effort was just to make the term more accurate. Yes, remove the Stigman Taboo associated, but at the same time, be more precise in our in our verbiage.
[0:52:47 - 0:52:57] you're looking right yeah mul
tiply that by five and you're going to put that in comparison an average commercial jet flies about 550 miles an hour if you're lucky with you know with a good tailwind
[0:54:30 - 0:54:44] transmemedium travel yes forgive me so what is transmedium travel or it is the ability to operate in mul
tiple domains what's a domain it's an environment so we are seeing these things operating in lower
[0:55:23 - 0:55:43] because they spend most of their time in that one environment right if you want an object to operate in mul
tiple environments there's more sacrifices to your design and your performance capabilities that's just the way it is we're not seeing that with these uap they are able without having to change a performance or their design they can operate seemingly and seamlessly
[0:57:42 - 0:57:48] fundamentally different type of technology and that's that's when a
tip really gets involved that's when it's like okay
[1:01:27 - 1:01:32] mul
tiple radars all in different slightly different frequencies so you can get really good pinpoint
[1:03:50 - 1:03:58] if a
tip contributed anything it it it contributed a level of rigor behind the UAP topic from a
[1:22:46 - 1:22:53] times around our planet in one second imagine how far you can go in a year and now mul
tiply that by
[1:33:30 - 1:33:35] brother yeah let me tell you again let's go to the facts right again for this program a
tip and
[1:34:12 - 1:34:18] part of a
tip are also having a similar experience so what we do know is that other people in the
[1:34:35 - 1:34:40] just us it was other people in a
tip who were also experiencing it while they were working in a
tip [1:34:40 - 1:34:44] before a
tip didn't have the problem and after a
tip didn't have the problem only during a
tip so
[1:36:09 - 1:36:14] the A-
tip team oh yeah I wonder intel guy is now seeing now counter intel yeah I was counter intel
[1:36:55 - 1:37:00] their experiences this is really just kind of the
tip of the iceberg unfortunately for us it was
[1:51:41 - 1:51:45] law and the s
tipulation but because of a recent s
tipulation had been correct passed in Congress that
[2:01:13 - 2:01:22] which is like with the quote unquote Collins elite so you at some point within a
tip growing as a hub
[2:06:43 - 2:06:48] actions that could or could not be taken by a
tip you know what there was some people I won't say
[2:54:44 - 2:54:48] it's a team effort it's the same thing with A-
tip it's the same thing with anything in the government
[3:09:25 - 3:09:32] so that is part of my with this with the a
tip conversation you need to have a single belly button and