[0:13:52 - 0:14:06] I put it in an envelope and we weren't near we were I was at my cabin in
upstate New York and we were not near FedEx, but
UPS had just started overnighting and so they were willing to come pick it up.
[0:14:06 - 0:14:20] So I called the
UPS office and they came along and they picked it up to take it to Sarbacher. The next morning I get a call from the
UPS guy on the scene saying we can't deliver it.
[0:14:57 - 0:15:08] He was I was told later that he fell off his boat. And I know the
UPS guy said he fell off his boat. And the death certificate says natural causes.
[0:18:41 - 0:18:48] And then he was four him. Oh, and the
UPS said, we'll we'll send the thing back to you. But I never received it.
[0:49:53 - 0:50:20] it so but getting back to this the the I went downstairs to call the police but I you know there's no 911 in those days I know how I called some got the phone book there's a man on the house
upstairs get coming in the house in any moment I'm looking in the front of the phone book for the local the
[0:51:11 - 0:51:36] and it's scared the hell out of me you know what did he know that I didn't know and so he comes in the house and I say he's up on the roof and he goes running
upstairs second later he comes running down yelling there's no one there there's no one there he runs down to his car gets it in drives off that was it
[2:00:31 - 2:00:36] And when she would get these gro
ups up at the cabin the visitors would show up wow
[2:07:45 - 2:07:53] So okay, it's what was John Mac like the sea he was well first of all we were both cut-
ups when we were kids and played a lot of practical jokes and made