[2:09:39 - 2:09:45] Like 182 frontman writing with Peter LeVenda and AJ Hartley this this whole series of

[0:03:18 - 0:03:44] But he had written with AJ Hartley, a book called Seagrard Machines and that book had some very interesting data in it that that we didn't know what whether or not there was a leak of classified information that Thomas getting from his quote unquote advisors, we knew he did have advisors and they were absolutely real.