[0:30:42 - 0:30:46] and Michael Shrat went to his archives and Cincinnati and read through the rest of his

[3:08:56 - 3:09:01] Michael Shrat is a great uh researcher and researcher no he didn't do the illustration oh he didn't

[3:09:15 - 3:09:23] mr. Shrat was not part of the skunkworks got it got it by the way yeah James Goodall Jim Goodall's