[0:33:28 - 0:33:40] Well, in 1972, Russell Targan, how put off, Dr. How put off, wrote an article that I think it was called Nature magazine.

[0:34:35 - 0:34:39] So how put off didn't know what target was Russell Targan didn't know.

[2:25:46 - 2:25:50] And then you have Russell Targ being like, I'm kind of skeptical of UFOs.

[1764.00s - 1768.00s] So my colleague, Russell Targ, and I sat down.

[2601.00s - 2605.00s] Russell Targ, my colleague and I are engineers and physicists,