[0:07:12 - 0:07:41] So all set did to but they were much broader think of a shotgun approach versus a sniper approach the shotgun being all set the sniper being a tip and so I was actually part of the ATIP program, although I worked with a lot of the elements in all SAP. My focus was really nuts and bolts on a tip interesting so that's it was started by Jim Likatsky and and J Straton on the all set side.