[0:17:28 - 0:17:39] Then I realized, Chris Jinners not there. So I said, where is Jinners? I said, why? He's been going two hours looking for you. We can't find him either.

[0:18:22 - 0:18:33] Now Chris Jinners discomfort in recalling the encounter immediately becomes apparent as he repeatedly fails to vocalize the event, which is clearly still very traumatic.