[0:12:29 - 0:12:44] Okay. So that's that's important to you. Like that's that's where it's proposed. Okay. And in the analogy that he or Elgroy that he uses to make the point is he says, you know, so we have a bunch of people. They're in a cave.

[1:02:34 - 1:02:42] whistleblower, you know, Roy, right? And we ask Roy, hey, you know, yeah, you've you've been told