[2:01:01 - 2:01:17] He then joined this is the part of the story people don't really know he then joined something called the advanced theoretical physics group ATP group and it was him and Oki Shannon who was you know physics lead at Los Alamos project lead there.

[1:07:20 - 1:07:25] were released by attendee Oki Shannon who formally served as manager for special projects at