[0:14:36 - 0:14:47] No, I believe it was eighty six. Yeah, he died right around that. I thought he wrote to
William. Well, it was it was while commune at that point was being created.
[0:15:08 - 0:15:16] Well, the context around what was happening at this time is Sarbacher had just written a letter to
William Steinman who's another UFO researcher.
[1:26:09 - 1:26:24] I receive a telephone call from Dr.
William Mallow the head of material science at Southwest research in San Antonio which was founded by a family friend is that that's Texas A.