[0:03:01 - 0:03:18] And on numerous occasions and so he's the real deal and and then that started that and then I went out to San Diego to talk to
Tom DeLong, who I did not know, but he had written with the people that I was going to talk to
Tom DeLong, who I did not know.
[0:03:44 - 0:04:13] So I went out and some other people went out with me, but I met
Tom one on one, met him at a hotel, we had a lovely dinner together and within the first hour, you know, realize right then and there that no, there was no leak of anything and and
Tom just put two and two together, his advisors were very sharp about what they told him and what they couldn't tell him, but he he put a lot of the story together and and he, he absolutely didn't know what he was doing.
[0:04:21 - 0:04:33] And then the next day we met for lunch again with me,
Tom howl and there were two other people there who I will not name because I don't think they want to be named.
[0:04:42 - 0:04:55] Tom said why don't you join a company i'm starting and then long story short, I didn't nobody wanted to but that
Tom said just you know lay out the company the way you think it should look if wanted to do this and.
[0:04:55 - 0:05:10] So I wrote down on a cocktail napkin whether it should look like
Tom immediately agreed so how and I joined right away with
Tom and then that's how basically TTS started and and and then within a week or two I mean you know we get we get.
[0:05:10 - 0:05:30] Steve justice from the skunk works lucky morn skunk words came on board and and then Lou member talking to Lou you know and when at the Pentagon and of course
Tom didn't know who Lou was and I couldn't tell him who Lou was but Lou decided he was going to you know resign and.
[0:06:24 - 0:06:42] But speaking about
Tom you know he tells the story that he met this guy named he calls the general at a airport and they had a discussion and the guy said something along the lines of you know is the height of the cold war and they had found a life one.
[0:06:45 - 0:07:13] I'm always initially skeptical but I know the general he he was talking about who's a straight up guy and
Tom's a straight up guy I there was
Tom you know isn't a dissimilar and you know he basically will be he tells you exactly what he hears he's also very careful about you know it's what I really really liked about these very very careful about who he talks to and.
[0:20:33 - 0:20:41] the one of the reasons, you know,
Tom started TTS. And why glue joined it is because we needed
[0:44:45 - 0:44:51] by now, the alleged meeting that Dr. Eric Davis had with Admiral
Tom Wilson. Right.
[0:52:29 - 0:52:35] bad. But then again, you know, here comes
Tom and the secret machines books with his own advisors
[1:17:18 - 1:17:25] at the bot
tom, you know, so it's a real thing. And I was actually at, you know, at CIA when they
[1:56:12 - 1:56:19] Peter LeVenda, you know, and
Tom have the other book coming out, War out of the God. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:56:27 - 1:56:32] smart man. I just, you know, he and
Tom, you know, would get together and they were talking.