[0:05:08 - 0:05:12] And he was like, okay, this kid has like some spunk, you know, he's kind of interes
ted in a lot of things.
[0:07:04 - 0:07:11] But in certain cases, they give you information on which school you want to go to based on criteria that you're interes
ted in.
[0:08:38 - 0:08:43] And I think the seeds of what I'm doing now with interviewing people were really plan
ted.
[0:11:23 - 0:11:33] But at what point were you like, hey, I'm really interes
ted in say, you follow G physics and some esoteria, if you will.
[0:13:14 - 0:13:18] You've heard me talk on my podcast about how therapy has benefi
ted me a couple times in the past.
[0:13:31 - 0:13:36] BetterHelp is entirely online designed to be convenient, flexible and sui
ted to your schedule.
[0:18:30 - 0:18:34] And so I really star
ted looking into it and looking at the history of it or whatever.
[0:19:08 - 0:19:13] And he's this like really trippy psychiatrist who like is very interes
ted in like Rudolph
[0:19:16 - 0:19:24] In 19th century and early 20th century Austrian philosopher, he's very interes
ted in like
[0:19:52 - 0:19:57] But when you see like trippy and you know also rigorous and like how the person's contribu
ted [0:20:22 - 0:20:27] And then I think the two star
ted to cohere maybe a little pre pandemic like I read American
[0:24:44 - 0:24:50] I think it's we don't know why these things are happening but if you wan
ted to sway you
[0:29:11 - 0:29:16] that crea
ted all these things across the galaxy that could be like that less seen in men and black
[0:31:31 - 0:31:37] example kind of misdirec
ted a lot of people and like yeah like John Locke wrote a book called
[0:33:10 - 0:33:15] orders that are kind of associa
ted loosely with nosticism but it's like this poor amalgamation of
[0:33:51 - 0:33:57] within you and protecting of traditions but recognizing that things have been changed and manipula
ted [0:34:21 - 0:34:26] fourth Philip the fair was indeb
ted to them and then he got really mad at you know Jacques de
[0:35:09 - 0:35:16] 1307 it was arres
ted and yeah I don't know you know it's like it's who knows exactly what they
[0:35:21 - 0:35:26] maybe they went underground you know after after he was arres
ted and maybe they went to the you
[0:35:55 - 0:36:01] basically and then their leadership was execu
ted it they had their hands on too many
[0:40:21 - 0:40:26] translations that are transla
ted fucking 12 different ways that get confusing but you know it's
[0:41:11 - 0:41:18] you can separate all these ideas and realize it's complica
ted it just gets it gets weird when you
[0:42:09 - 0:42:16] you star
ted to go into it but what what is she really getting at vis-a-vis UFOs and and religion?
[0:46:17 - 0:46:23] they're so desperate they're uncorrela
ted exactly and so I think I think the more your knowledge
[0:48:15 - 0:48:21] source data was amalgama
ted into what we the public will end up being able to have by a very
[0:54:52 - 0:54:57] like it just star
ted the council and I see and work your way through that there was actually a book
[0:56:59 - 0:57:03] tat
ted tat
ted on whether or not I live my life right yeah you know what I mean but it's strange
[0:57:08 - 0:57:15] excommunica
ted very strange it is strange and that that's a decision that's it's easier said than done
[0:58:12 - 0:58:17] have an educa
ted conversation with them where you're not like attacking it or saying you're wrong
[0:58:40 - 0:58:46] on the front of the New York Times it's suddenly become a big part of the accep
ted lexicon to where
[0:58:52 - 0:58:56] these thoughts have always exis
ted throughout human history they've been something that especially
[0:59:02 - 0:59:10] you know you're really good friends with a guy who's like maybe like the most respec
ted name
[0:59:27 - 0:59:32] Peter's orbit or whatever and then just getting interes
ted in all these like you know subjects kind
[1:05:56 - 1:06:01] go on what did they find in there without you know going like too complica
ted like what did they
[1:07:51 - 1:07:57] and then out of Stanford Research Institute he star
ted the government's psychic spy program since
[1:09:28 - 1:09:33] Brian Keating come in there and test it because like I think if I wan
ted to be a cynic I could be
[1:15:13 - 1:15:18] selec
ted against our eyes are being selec
ted for more screen time they have slit like eyes our brains
[1:15:18 - 1:15:22] are being selec
ted for decision making is becoming far more important our bodies and strength are
[1:21:23 - 1:21:31] you just said we have a strange connection since the Manhattan Project yeah of UFOs being spot
ted [1:21:47 - 1:21:53] highest level military people who are citing it who quite literally are so tes
ted that if they take
[1:23:49 - 1:23:56] it's not like it star
ted a world war two but it very clearly got some themes both in civilians who
[1:26:05 - 1:26:10] fois
ted on us at some point and yeah I'm not I'm not I'm not at all sure I think you have to
[1:26:45 - 1:26:50] rela
ted you know in general relativity as well and so like maybe maybe you know gravity itself
[1:28:47 - 1:28:54] like I'm pretty sure like in quantum stuff time is mostly taken for gran
ted or like at best it's
[1:29:43 - 1:29:49] for gran
ted like time is the most used now in the English language and if you were to try to
[1:33:39 - 1:33:43] because you figured out some pathogen in a lab setting like we're motiva
ted by like millions of
[1:34:50 - 1:34:56] curve-fit
ted math or whatever and so so you have two maps right like strength theory is like
[1:40:15 - 1:40:22] limi
ted hangout tech protection thing and like it's just not like like like you like the UFOs
[1:40:46 - 1:40:53] thing or two out for sure but like a thing that could like fully disarm like the most encryp
ted like
[1:41:09 - 1:41:15] stuff going back like a while and so I just think it's this like extremely complica
ted um you know
[1:41:15 - 1:41:22] gets the cone as a extremely complica
ted territory to traverse to mean and by the way that's
[1:43:06 - 1:43:12] kind of being rela
ted is razzwal which happens out west as well allegedly these aliens landed there
[1:44:30 - 1:44:36] in one of these kangaroo courts is saying you know it took him a while to get adjus
ted to the
[1:52:04 - 1:52:09] interes
ted in this and he starts to think that maybe the us and their inquiries into ufo's and
[1:55:50 - 1:55:55] where quantum gravity gets crea
ted in 1957 which was under Agnew Bonson at you know the
[1:56:04 - 1:56:11] his capacitor gravity experiments and so anyways all of this is to say Oppenheimer is lis
ted as one
[1:56:45 - 1:56:55] either and or known too much or perhaps formula
ted an opinion behind the scenes that they didn't like
[1:57:28 - 1:57:33] you know he was obviously like extremely idealistic in some ways yes you know he obviously regret
ted [1:57:44 - 1:57:48] whether he was even involved in the UFO this is all predica
ted on you know they're being some core
[1:59:50 - 1:59:56] they can they have the power based on all the the amalgama
ted data that they can collect online
[2:00:09 - 2:00:14] way to what the Cambridge Analytica guys did in 2016 yeah helping Trump out because they crea
ted [2:06:15 - 2:06:23] topic so you we star
ted this long tangent about this where you were talking about the concept of
[2:07:42 - 2:07:49] up to exactly like I'm talking to Lou soon so I'm exci
ted to kind of dig in there but and you've
[2:13:28 - 2:13:32] information I've never done that I've never purpor
ted to do it I don't support it we mean
[2:14:06 - 2:14:10] right now so that's been that's been dispu
ted though that there's that there's people that say that
[2:22:18 - 2:22:25] Island which is a UFO hotspot the fucking Catalina wine mixture that it all star
ted there it is
[2:23:30 - 2:23:34] but you're also saying in some of the research rela
ted to that to bring it back to the beginning
[2:28:12 - 2:28:17] thing nobody knew that these prisons exis
ted it was outside to the judicial system there's no
[2:28:41 - 2:28:46] there there was real danger for people if we if we poin
ted to specific facilities so we we let
[2:35:09 - 2:35:16] at a company that was like in space it actually had come out of space force like the guy who star
ted [2:35:16 - 2:35:23] it was an officer in the space force and he star
ted a company in this area and I was diligenceing
[2:37:20 - 2:37:25] there's it hin
ted like hey you know I think you might be on to something there might be more
[2:38:19 - 2:38:28] know him a bit actually decently well before he came out and he was he seemed extremely frustra
ted [2:40:59 - 2:41:04] that you had and you know you're a friendly guy too what why do you think he trus
ted you and gave
[2:41:10 - 2:41:16] don't have the YouTube channel and like if you wan
ted to toss on a paranoia brain from his end
[2:43:00 - 2:43:06] a New York Times staff writer right so she wan
ted to do it through New York Times and I think what's
[2:43:30 - 2:43:34] the New York Times and I think like they they doub
ted that the whole thing is actually absurd
[2:44:16 - 2:44:22] you can say like we don't know and and xyz need to be corrobora
ted but you have the ici g tomis
[2:45:32 - 2:45:38] know really really does in a limi
ted sense and over time there's nobody that I think is full
[2:47:40 - 2:47:46] know this thing was detec
ted here and what you know whatever but I think that and like
[2:53:36 - 2:53:43] non-human biologics came with the crafts or pilo
ted the crafts as well and that the materials
[2:55:24 - 2:55:31] is one thing there's you know possibility like they're you know trying to and some super coordina
ted [2:55:41 - 2:55:46] people talking to me and like those people did like they'd intersec
ted with my my own career from
[2:57:48 - 2:57:53] secrecy and in certain cases the people get dele
ted from the government like Bob Jacobs and then
[2:58:31 - 2:58:36] make people think that were protec
ted by the aliens or something by this is like orbs are showing
[2:58:55 - 2:59:00] prefecture where they have all their nuclear energy that is like dedica
ted to UFOs and there's
[3:02:59 - 3:03:05] oh the aliens are here yeah but he's he's looking at it in an educa
ted questioning true seeking way
[3:03:10 - 3:03:18] where suddenly he's like all right Jesse I think two things happen for him one is he star
ted to become
[3:03:22 - 3:03:28] presen
ted in Oxford it in like 2013 but like you'd have the people being like this is this is it
[3:05:22 - 3:05:28] have you know associa
ted mainstream media articles and press around that and I do think you know
[3:06:36 - 3:06:41] to his credit he immediately credi
ted me with like okay you've been pushing like I thought you
[3:14:44 - 3:14:49] you know it's like next level stuff but he doesn't know you know whether the bell exis
ted exactly
[3:18:23 - 3:18:28] who like literally ran the Germans they crea
ted the VT Rock like they're like running like the NASA
[3:18:45 - 3:18:52] the Uni
ted States and Britain and the secrets of the world that exist from that race
[3:18:53 - 3:18:59] is one of the most under repor
ted great mysteries of our time yeah you know it's just the
[3:19:58 - 3:20:03] towards the Nazis that's very well documen
ted long before the war and then when the war was
[3:23:06 - 3:23:12] of like all right like I'm pretty sure like Delis like came after Kennedy like he the guy ha
ted him
[3:23:12 - 3:23:17] he wan
ted to scatter his guy to the Wendy fight just fired Delis you had the Bay of pigs you come
[3:24:34 - 3:24:40] kind of sunset
ted and then like rolled up into these other operations Mungus and that is fox
[3:26:35 - 3:26:40] up after watergate and like I represen
ted him like why yeah yeah I'm gonna dunk and don't it's