[0:21:31 - 0:21:48] I wouldn't say that if I was hoaxing. I would be like, I was the scientist. I touched the bodies. I, you know, just bizarre stuff that this coincidence of, and I can't think of the, I can't think of a good word
Matthew, but it's almost like this, like this, this firewall with these people where
[0:24:52 - 0:25:03] So
Matthew Cox says, I was a biologist and I went to Harvard and I was an expert in microbiology and I was down in this facility examining aliens.
[0:33:39 - 0:34:02] now I want, I want
Matthew Cox's like, you know, yeah, you're nature on the report from 91. It said Captain William Jackalby. Now, I'm sorry, Captain Lowell Jackalby. So I said, wait a minute. I'm on Wikipedia. He's a vice admiral. This is a hoax. My investigator goes to, yeah, he's getting he's getting raised up through the ranks, right?
[0:42:26 - 0:42:43] You better file one with the FBI. So you have this recorded. And you in
Matt, my lawyer are going to send emails to all these crazy agencies. You're done. My wife's like, I'm not seeing stop investigating. But you're for your request. You're my wife's like, you're done.
[0:50:47 - 0:51:16] And I'm like, well, I'm like, well, oh my god. I've got a picture now. I have a sudden, a sudden moment of of of brilliance. Why did I go to the director of the two Victor documentaries, the one in 97 and the one where he came back. Maybe he'll tell me Victor's name is this is great. I can end this because the Victor they told me
Matt. Everyone in Hollywood, everyone in the government find Victor. If you find he's an actor with central casting. It's a hoax.
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[0:59:08 - 0:59:22] Or helped release, released the film. And I, and he's a hostile witness now. But God damn it,
Matthew, 27 years. It's like finding your long lost father that you never knew. I found my guy. I begged him. And he's not an actor.
[0:59:22 - 0:59:37] And everybody with this production from rocket pictures who put out the two doctor documentaries have all said, I am telling you, John, we didn't make that three minute film.
Matthew, I, I'm not regressing. I'm just saying I contacted people.
[1:03:15 - 1:03:30] I'm going to operate his website.
Matt, I'm looking in your eyes. Please illuminate me. Am I nuts? 95% of the people involved that I interviewed that said they were part of this are in their 70s. They're early 80s.
[1:10:46 - 1:10:57] Yeah it's it's it's it's an amazing it's explosive explosive story if if true and the biggest thing
Matthew with disclosure is you something that South Africa did during a park tide and now.
[1:12:51 - 1:13:18] But it's the same it's a big nothing burger yeah it's all stories nobody's got anything because like Lualos on do he can't show you anything he's got an NDA security agreement with the government this is
Matthew I'm looking you in the eye this is why my investigation is so crucial because I am not found by any security agreements and government officials have helped my investigation.
[1:14:07 - 1:14:36] I think that
matters. I think if they say I mean if they decided to it's a no go on on this come out then yeah well you know look I'm not bad pedaling but I've I've invented all my foieas and and appeals with all of the intelligence communities I've won on ad nauseam that I think these are heroes these men and women have been didn't just decide to do this when they were in seventh grade that they were given this information.
[1:43:03 - 1:43:08] wasn't bad it wasn't bad for what it was you know you know
Matthew I think it's it's kind of