[0:58:03 - 0:58:20] He was in propulsion. He knew Bill Moore, who was fluent in French, was a crony of his. And he spoke French in the O.A. documentary. Victor did kind of, I think like a homage. I don't think that's crazy. The biggest thing is a guy named Phil Klotz, Phil Klass.

[0:58:20 - 0:58:39] He had a UFO skeptic newsletter back in the 90s. Now going through your mind, all these old 80s and 90s websites and newsletters. And I was told that Phil Klass had Victor's bio on his skeptics web skeptics website and newsletter.

[0:58:39 - 0:59:08] Not his name, just his bio. And I always said to myself, which was great intelligence that someone gave me. I said, how many know Victor's bio if he didn't know who Victor is, how can I put Victor Victor and Phil Klass together? How can I ever feel class is dead? How can I ever find a connection in cosmic conspiracy? Who is stand day interviewing? Phil Klass as a skeptic for the documentary. So that's how this guy knew Victor and knew that Victor released it, released the film.