[0:17:20 - 0:17:27] Now the renowned astrophysicist, Jacques Valle, has that document but has been intimidated

[0:01:06 - 0:01:13] Jacques Valle is the ultimate archetype of this. He is a serious researcher with the computer science, physics, and astronomy background.

[0:24:26 - 0:24:32] One of my all-time favorite Jacques Valle-books is his 1969 classic, Passport to Magonia.

[0:25:27 - 0:25:31] Jacques Valle, of course, would you disagree with that?

[0:29:25 - 0:29:33] Jacques Valle had just met with Dr. Heineck at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio in 1964.

[1:42:31 - 1:42:34] Jacques Vallet just wrote a book with a woman named Paula Harris.

[1:50:14 - 1:50:16] Jacques Vallet is convinced that they had orders

[2:12:12 - 2:12:14] carefully with the help of Jacques Valle

[0:39:51 - 0:39:55] And that's the Jacques Vallet kind of control system hypothesis. That was one of the things that

[1:36:56 - 1:37:04] before the show Jacques Vallet you know was just on Joe Rogan. And you know when I speak to Jacques

[1:43:28 - 1:43:34] us to ascend outside of the cave yeah and I asked Jacques Valle this I said are there protocols and

[1:50:20 - 1:50:26] like like Jacques Vallet talks about you know maybe these aren't space aliens but if we start to