[0:01:31 - 0:01:40] occasional projects with Dr. Ed May at the Laboratories of Fundamental Research, LFR.

[2:12:02 - 2:12:09] And if they would have looked at the science, certain people would have been contacted like Ed May, SRI.

[2:29:07 - 2:29:09] But I bet him through Ed May and then I...