[0:54:27 - 0:54:32] 1999 was sort of a citizen diplomacy outreach to these civilizations. And then we're going to release

[1:00:39 - 1:00:44] but Hopkins and David Jacobs and Mac and all these people. And most of those guys didn't know

[1:44:22 - 1:44:27] machine as it were. I thought about rage against the machine. We're up against this big machine

[0:48:21 - 0:48:35] simple process of the technology so what I always say is like when you go to an airport you jump on a 737 there's no real threat but if you go on the tarmac onto the runway right of that and go behind the jet engine while it's

[0:52:30 - 0:52:46] observable one the second observable is hyper sonic velocity now what is hyper sonic velocity it is five technically five times the speed of sound so speed of sound Mach 1 is roughly 760 some miles an hour at sea level so you're

[0:52:58 - 0:53:16] now do we have aircraft that can do that we do we have for example the Lockheed wife 12 a sr 71 a k a the blackbird it can fly about Mach 5 you can but when it wants to do a right hand turn it takes roughly half the state of Ohio to do it right

[1:02:50 - 1:02:56] and it gives you this air air control and supremacy in the sky when you're flying combat missions so

[1:06:23 - 1:06:28] nuts well let me ask you this if a submarine were to pop out of the Potomac and it be some sort of

[1:24:14 - 1:24:21] or two orders of magnitude up or down because this is our size right we're kind of smack right in

[2:00:42 - 2:00:46] the war machine why why would you come up with some cockamé me elaborate I mean first of all

[2:15:57 - 2:16:03] it means to you and then if at the end of the day you guys say yeah great yeah we get a big Mac

[2:42:22 - 2:42:27] try to replicate that material and at a cost of a million dollars and it broke the machine

[2:42:27 - 2:42:31] they're able to create this material at a macro level a sandwich between one piece and another

[0:20:41 - 0:21:01] There's two things is the Von Neumann machine, which is he postulated a machine that would replicate the species that built it and would then move around the galaxy looking for planets that it could seed.

[0:21:56 - 0:22:10] It could be it looks a little bit like an AI that has gone berserk Von Neumann the Von Neumann machine could be an explanation for why this is so peculiar let me put it that way.

[1:01:42 - 1:01:47] Not exactly machinery that's putting it too far but they.

[1:13:00 - 1:13:29] Yeah in the world like we are in moments like this I just often remember a specific interview the doctor John Mac did with one of the one of the kids from the aerial school and he asks her why she thought the visitors were there and she goes in space there is no love but down here there is and I I remember so viscerally watching that for the first time and that resonating on such a deep soul level that I don't know what I'm going to do.

[2:03:47 - 2:03:50] But I haven't heard from Laurie what what what were John Mac

[2:05:24 - 2:05:25] Mac is these guys who are

[2:05:52 - 2:05:56] John Mac and Edgar Mitchell and

[2:07:33 - 2:07:40] So didn't didn't the Rockefellers both on John Mac and Steven Greer as well and the 90s I believe yeah

[2:07:45 - 2:07:53] So okay, it's what was John Mac like the sea he was well first of all we were both cut-ups when we were kids and played a lot of practical jokes and made

[2:09:17 - 2:09:19] He's just going to miss John Mack when they're at Harvard together

[2:09:38 - 2:09:40] Dr. Mack