[0:21:49 - 0:21:56] That's right. That was done in 1994 from the testers corporation with a guy called John Andrews that was running testers.

[0:28:34 - 0:28:41] I never even went this deep with John Andrews when I did, when he helped John Andrews with the testers corporation.

[0:05:02 - 0:05:09] I don't remember from being there, but after all this stuff was over, I had John Andrews

[0:35:33 - 0:35:40] I don't remember from being there, but after all this stuff was over, I had John Andrews