[1:08:23 - 1:08:32] a piece from uh Roger true or not these thin layers of bismuth magnesium are very hard to reproduce

[1:12:00 - 1:12:05] so you have like Roger Penrose wrote like the emperors in your mind and you know uh I guess that

[1:44:36 - 1:44:41] buck Rogers universe that we're living in he might have been referring to just nuclear weapons

[1:44:41 - 1:44:45] I mean that's like a weird weird universe but buck Rogers is this comic strip at the time

[3:25:13 - 3:25:19] right yeah he's they call them Roger Morale yeah Ricardo Morale I don't know um but it's it's

[0:16:48 - 0:16:53] It took him a while to accommodate to the new Buck Rogers universe that we're living in.

[0:16:55 - 0:16:57] Why are you referencing Buck Rogers?

[0:55:06 - 0:55:27] In 2013, you offer researcher, a leader, Roger, lear. He was in Los Angeles. I was shooting in Los Angeles. And I at the time, even though I was covering Virginia, and I was covering the landing case in Australia, I had a specific focus that week on the witnesses from Rua's in Bobway.

[0:56:03 - 0:56:12] So I focused on that. And Roger, lear is like, I heard you're doing a document or part you're covering the Virginia case because I was going to just.

[0:56:29 - 0:56:39] And I kicked myself because I kept trying to make it for him to come in and he got upset with me. Roger, funny. He was like, you know, hey man, like, you know, you keep saying you're going to get me on camera. What the hell?

[0:57:27 - 0:57:37] I've got those Roger Ler tapes. So I take those tapes out. I had them digitized and I go through them. I'm like, whoa, he got this person. Oh, he did that. Oh, this is amazing.

[0:58:36 - 0:59:04] So I find out who is he with. Yeah, he was with Ubudur, Ubudur Jada Rodriguez. It was a very prominent UFO researcher that happened to do like at one point, he was the biggest advocate that this happened. There's no question. We have all these witnesses to nothing to have daughter to nothing happened. And it was all just a big, you know, blah, blah. So he did at one point he did a one A. So now this guy won't even meet with me. He's one rear Roger Lear. He's deceased.

[0:59:14 - 0:59:21] But according now it had I met with Roger. He would have told me who those doctors were on camera. And I could have like looked into.

[1:17:31 - 1:17:34] There was a guy named Roger Lear.

[1:17:34 - 1:17:37] Roger Lear found out, these are people that I really want to meet.

[1:35:35 - 1:35:39] and Dr. Roger Lear's book, one of my biggest regrets,

[1:36:07 - 1:36:09] Roger Lear, Dr. Roger Lear, and he's going,

[1:36:20 - 1:36:22] Roger, I'm so busy right now.

[1:37:16 - 1:37:18] And according to Dr. Roger Lear's book,

[1:44:22 - 1:44:25] The press conference they had with Colonel DeBose, Roger

[1:10:18 - 1:10:21] Roger that. So I get my cover, run downstairs, run over, and there's nobody there.

[0:54:07 - 0:54:13] I'm asking for a six six one. I'm a bunch of people in the box out Roger. You are cleared to maneuver at necessary.

[2:20:01 - 2:20:07] Roger um some people let me give you some and does by the way even that proof of doesn't even

[1:24:53 - 1:24:57] And we're going to study it with Roger Lear and you know we finally figured out what this thing is.

[1:27:49 - 1:27:59] Oh listen I studied a lot of them with Bill I mean Bill and I became close friends and we studied lots of the ones that Roger Lear was producing from here in LA.

[1:35:58 - 1:36:24] Roger she says forget it you're not getting it taken out I want to find out what it is what it does I said well it's tracking me she says nobody cares that you go down to get the newspaper nobody cares about anything you do you're uninteresting I said well yeah true I mean I don't I mean I'm not the criminal or anything so I leave it in.

[2:09:04 - 2:09:08] But they did do they went after it Roger Lear had the same thing happen they get went after him