[0:06:37 - 0:06:49] And I remember thinking to myself, God, what a bummer, man. I'm going to lose one of my best friends. I'm going to have to cut this guy loose because he's c
learly lost his mind. I'm serious. I was, I was, what a bummer.
[0:08:57 - 0:09:08] You start to gather probably enough data even in that week to make your like probability that there's something there is something here where the investigation like it becomes very c
lear.
[0:09:47 - 0:09:54] You know what I mean? I was like sort of thinking about as I
learned more about the phenomenon and the relationship between the government and the phenomenon.
[0:11:21 - 0:11:31] And I think there's actually this 1971 document that came out of Australia from the joint intelligence organization by their head of their nuc
lear division named Harry Turner.
[0:11:31 - 0:11:41] Between 1952 and 1963, the British government conducted nuc
lear tests in Australia, including the Montabello Islands, Mara Linga and Emo Field.
[0:16:32 - 0:16:37] is heading up the kangaroo court, basically stripping Oppenheimer of his Q c
learance.
[0:17:49 - 0:17:55] One of the things I've
learned over the years, over the decades, is to suspend judgment.
[0:23:59 - 0:24:10] And that was like kind of the first time where I really started
learning about the psychic nature, there are a lot of people have seen craft and had that communication.
[0:45:52 - 0:46:02] Okay. So we are sitting here with military ex who c
learly doesn't want his identity revealed, which we're not going to do.
[0:55:06 - 0:55:27] In 2013, you offer researcher, a leader, Roger,
lear. He was in Los Angeles. I was shooting in Los Angeles. And I at the time, even though I was covering Virginia, and I was covering the landing case in Australia, I had a specific focus that week on the witnesses from Rua's in Bobway.
[0:56:03 - 0:56:12] So I focused on that. And Roger,
lear is like, I heard you're doing a document or part you're covering the Virginia case because I was going to just.
[0:58:36 - 0:59:04] So I find out who is he with. Yeah, he was with Ubudur, Ubudur Jada Rodriguez. It was a very prominent UFO researcher that happened to do like at one point, he was the biggest advocate that this happened. There's no question. We have all these witnesses to nothing to have daughter to nothing happened. And it was all just a big, you know, blah, blah. So he did at one point he did a one A. So now this guy won't even meet with me. He's one rear Roger
Lear. He's deceased.
[1:05:25 - 1:05:31] Stanton Friedman, a physicist who's been involved in nuc
lear space and research for such companies as General Electric,
[1:42:15 - 1:42:21] Instead of trying to make peaceful contact with this thing that was c
learly not of this
[1:49:14 - 1:49:18] But yeah, I just
learned you were while making some of your early films, you were working
[1:59:00 - 1:59:04] I don't know exactly how they relate to this, but they've come up enough where they c
learly
[2:02:09 - 2:02:12] Is there anybody to look out for as to, you know, maybe steer c
lear, maybe avoid, maybe
[2:03:06 - 2:03:13] And so it's telling you earlier, I've
learned to be open and to suspend judgment and listen
[2:04:13 - 2:04:17] Which makes me, again, John
Lear, I don't know if he was like an agent or a useful idiot,
[2:12:18 - 2:12:23] So obviously with nuc
lear, you need nuc
lear physics is like an academic program, but there's
[2:12:54 - 2:12:59] of nuc
lear material is basically anything emitting any sort of radiological properties.
[2:15:38 - 2:15:43] So he's creating a dossier in the background on Condon and Condon is getting his Q c
learance
[2:15:54 - 2:15:59] So Condon, Condon then doesn't have his Q c
learance for the longest time till the Condon
[2:17:27 - 2:17:32] And he says, Hey, you know, maybe it's time you get your c
learance back and Condon's
[2:31:54 - 2:32:13] Yeah, you have, um, Barra Loce is a nuc
lear energy grid and, um, and, and, and, and, and,
[2:32:23 - 2:32:28] You know, Robert Hastings, UFOs and nukes or the phenomena, nuc
lear connection section,
[2:32:35 - 2:32:41] They're taking out the NSA uses the top cryptography for all of the, you know, nuc
lear armament
[2:32:53 - 2:32:56] It was this big story just because, you know, one of our nuc
lear sites went down to the
[2:36:45 - 2:36:50] of the crafts themselves around nuc
lear bases have actually had abduction cases as well.
[2:39:47 - 2:39:52] By the way, in the worldview where they're showing up on these, you know, nuc
lear bases,
[2:41:58 - 2:42:03] But I remember looking at the different variations of this c
learly, they're looking at the same
[2:44:04 - 2:44:07] Yeah, and I think that people might interpret that as like, oh, well, he's c
learly jaded
[2:55:55 - 2:56:00] Hopefully then when they c
leared out his cubby holes at this news organization, they didn't