[0:16:23 - 0:16:25] Okay, and this is, I believe Jim Likasky.

[0:16:25 - 0:16:39] Correct. Dr. Likasky. Yeah. So this is, and this is what I try to explain to people. If you want to want to know a little bit about Jim, he is the epitome of a rocket scientist, literally a rocket scientist.