[0:03:22 - 0:03:37] And of course, at a long form conversation, we discussed the history of covert UFO research programs, their connection with Robert
Oppenheimer in the Manhattan Project, white presidents and elected officials may have been shielded from the UFO secrets in the past.
[0:20:53 - 0:21:13] I would probably ask starbocker,
Oppenheimer, and be like, what was your thought process in the 40s and 50s, you know, scrolling this away, I mean, besides overlaying the Manhattan Project secrecy, because often I was the one who created the classification that included the UFO stuff.
[1:05:53 - 1:05:59] Not only did he study with Robert
Oppenheimer under Max Born and Germany together in the 20s,
[1:05:59 - 1:06:04] he's sometimes credited for helping
Oppenheimer pick Los Alamos as the site for the Manhattan