[0:41:51 - 0:41:57] interviews taken by Dr. John Mac was a Harvard psychiatrist very impressive stuff right yeah so he

[0:02:08 - 0:02:15] Lou Elizondo, Harvard Psychiatry Department Head and legendary UFO researcher John Mac,

[0:04:14 - 0:04:21] UFO whistleblowers, Stephen Greer, Louis L. Azondo, John Mack. Before that, it was ahead of the Harvard

[0:22:00 - 0:22:04] person you represented is John Mack. That's right. And John Mack was the head of the Harvard

[0:22:28 - 0:22:36] think about John Mack and his investigations? Well, I represented him for 10 years and met

[2:16:57 - 2:17:02] 20 years I was legal counsel for the disclosure project yeah he knew I wrote down a Dr. John Mac he

[2:43:15 - 2:43:17] I'm out, you know, representing Dr. John Mack.

[1:13:00 - 1:13:29] Yeah in the world like we are in moments like this I just often remember a specific interview the doctor John Mac did with one of the one of the kids from the aerial school and he asks her why she thought the visitors were there and she goes in space there is no love but down here there is and I I remember so viscerally watching that for the first time and that resonating on such a deep soul level that I don't know what I'm going to do.

[2:03:47 - 2:03:50] But I haven't heard from Laurie what what what were John Mac

[2:05:52 - 2:05:56] John Mac and Edgar Mitchell and

[2:07:33 - 2:07:40] So didn't didn't the Rockefellers both on John Mac and Steven Greer as well and the 90s I believe yeah

[2:07:45 - 2:07:53] So okay, it's what was John Mac like the sea he was well first of all we were both cut-ups when we were kids and played a lot of practical jokes and made

[2:09:17 - 2:09:19] He's just going to miss John Mack when they're at Harvard together

[0:49:38 - 0:49:43] John Mack as well, right? Yes, that was part of the betrayal. And he, I think he was, he was moved

[0:49:43 - 0:49:49] his funds over into people who met well, like John Mack. I knew John Mack pretty well. But

[0:49:49 - 0:49:55] did you like John Mack? Did he find him to be an honest actor? He was doing the best he could with

[0:50:08 - 0:50:13] cards for the audience. John Mack, head of the Harvard Psychiatry Department. They did all work with

[0:51:11 - 0:51:17] called stage craft doing this. Now, John Mack didn't know that, but Hopkins didn't know that.

[2:04:21 - 2:04:30] hopkins and even back then uh john mac and some other people is that and uh david jacob's

[2:06:16 - 2:06:23] but hopkins or john mack now they didn't know that i was debriefing people who are the ones operating

[0:00:43 - 0:00:48] Heard of people in actually who are attached to Harvard, you know, I think of John Mack.

[0:00:48 - 0:00:54] John Mack looked into reports from people who claim that they were abducted.

[0:07:34 - 0:07:40] we've heard of people in, actually, who are attached to Harvard, you know, I think of John Mack,

[0:07:57 - 0:08:06] For example, John Mack looked into reports from people who claimed that they were abducted.

[0:56:16 - 0:56:27] Yeah, and that's one of the big arguments too is like, you know, you think of these stories like John Mac covered and everything else, you know, that they're coming here and they're doing these terrible experiments.

[0:56:34 - 0:56:38] The only problem that I have with what John Mac was doing is that he relied on people.