[0:10:22 - 0:10:39] Wow, that's amazing. So you were kind of chosen as a note. I mean, something that you've talked about as well as the great John
Von Neumann, who is known for being an absolute genius in his time smarter than all of the other incredibly smart scientists in the US, tongue Hungarian.
[0:11:32 - 0:11:48] Now, as far as this goes, let's go back and let's explore
Von Neumann a little bit. Very interesting. He came up with, he was involved in this. I think that we're past the point of saying, oh, these scientists who are not interested in this.
[0:11:58 - 0:12:07] That's not true. They were involved. A couple of data points to support you before you go on is Robert Sarbacher said John
Von Neumann was directly involved.
[0:12:07 - 0:12:19] And
Von Neumann died of a really kind of gnarly form of cancer. And he had secret secret service outside of the Naval Hospital that he that he was in because they were afraid of what he might say.
[0:15:16 - 0:15:26] He was actually an employee of skunkworks who got basically fired over his research around UFOs. And he was saying, you know, yes, there was a program and
Von Neumann,
[0:19:47 - 0:20:06] He didn't tell me personally, but he told a member of my family, not
Von Neumann, General Exan, that he had held when the debris and bodies were brought into the material, he had held one of the bodies.
[0:20:27 - 0:20:41] My immediate thought was my God bugs huge bugs. And I thought that's why I thought it was having a nightmare because I came to this with no idea it could happen. Now let's get back to
Von Neumann.
[0:20:41 - 0:21:01] There's two things is the
Von Neumann machine, which is he postulated a machine that would replicate the species that built it and would then move around the galaxy looking for planets that it could seed.
[0:21:01 - 0:21:26] What if that's what we have here only
Von Neumann in his I don't recall if it's in very much detail in the writings he did about this, but he does mention that something like that over vast amounts of time would inevitably have a certain amount of deterioration of its memory.
[0:21:56 - 0:22:10] It could be it looks a little bit like an AI that has gone berserk
Von Neumann the
Von Neumann machine could be an explanation for why this is so peculiar let me put it that way.
[0:22:10 - 0:22:25] But the other thing that
Von Neumann and you referenced briefly this paper earlier there is supposedly a paper and at general Exan who was no scientist but had been exposed to a lot of scientists involved in this and was very smart.
[0:22:25 - 0:22:39] It tried to explain this to me and of all the scientists who were involved in it I thought he was most likely talking about something that
Von Neumann would have thought of would have conceived.
[0:23:56 - 0:24:14] That is as basic as our assumption about the rest of the reality that we know fascinating how do we get our hands on that paper because we know on record that
Von Neumann no scientist would dispute this he entertained this idea that the mind is responsible for wave function collapse.
[0:25:20 - 0:25:38] And therefore we are not ready and here's the problem I wrote a short story about this about
Von Neumann's death called the open doors about his fear that this is a door which opens in the mind and in the perceptual system.
[0:27:34 - 0:27:46] Ordinary discourse in a deeper level of consciousness which is the level of consciousness which
Von Neumann was talking about when he was talking about.