[0:27:04 - 0:27:07] Jim Lekatsky was the program manager.

[0:28:08 - 0:28:14] So this week, a news organization, as a producer, writes to Jim Lekatsky.

[0:30:54 - 0:30:59] You have to be on team Jim Lekatsky or team J Stratton or team Lou.

[0:31:16 - 0:31:22] That became all sap with Jim Lekatsky and J Stratton, Robert Bigelow, Colin Callagher and

[3455.00s - 3469.00s] And so they asked the top physicist at DIA, Jim Lekatsky, who was one of the top physicists on propulsion and rocketry and so on,