[0:04:15 - 0:04:27] And it was crazy. It could never happen again. And within a year of doing that, KLVX, Bob Stodall, and a guy named Ned Day, took notice of me invited me to come over and I've been here ever since.

[0:05:37 - 0:05:46] How did this UFO thing suddenly come into your life? It was really a quirk. Ned Day and Bob Stodall had broken a really big national story.