[0:04:15 - 0:04:27] And it was crazy. It could never happen again. And within a year of doing that, KLVX, Bob Stodall, and a guy named Ned Day, took notice of me invited me to come over and I've been here ever since.

[0:05:37 - 0:05:46] How did this UFO thing suddenly come into your life? It was really a quirk. Ned Day and Bob Stodall had broken a really big national story.

[0:06:55 - 0:07:07] And one day John Lear walks into the news station. This is in 1987 with a stack of documents, UFO documents. And he plops them on Ned Day's desk and he says, Ned, this is the biggest story you will ever cover in your life.