[1:39:53 - 1:40:04] um it was 2015 I think this lady by the name of
Pam Nance she's a research scientist for the
[1:40:04 - 1:40:14] government and her home bases weight forest university so
Pam calls me I was introduced to her
[1:42:54 - 1:43:00] her assistant
Pam and Ashley my wife and Stephanie my niece there were four ladies standing