[0:01:05 - 0:01:10] time I e
ver co
vered Michael's story and I was super dismissive of him, super skeptical.
[0:03:26 - 0:03:32] I mean, to make this decision, this risky decision, to go and check out whate
ver this was.
[0:06:11 - 0:06:15] So that's when we're putting our hands up in the air and e
very single one of us did the
[0:07:44 - 0:07:49] So if we would have gotten into any kind of conflict, we were se
verely outnumbered already.
[0:08:28 - 0:08:34] So e
verybody has the whole, they think they're John Wick until they're in that situation.
[0:09:06 - 0:09:10] because e
verything that's going on o
ver there is basically silent because you have a hill
[0:09:24 - 0:09:29] So that wasn't as audible compared to when e
verything started to go on and when they had
[0:11:01 - 0:11:05] And most of the time I would just put magazines and whate
ver the easiest side to reach was,
[0:14:19 - 0:14:25] But this is where this was the blackest, darkest thing that I have e
ver seen in my life.
[0:15:31 - 0:15:38] but I'm just trying to gather e
verybody's attention to see how, what I can recall as this,
[0:16:17 - 0:16:23] So our focus is going back and forth. One, you don't see anything that looks like that e
ver.
[0:17:03 - 0:17:09] we were going back and forth. And the only thing that got my attention and insured got e
verybody else's
[0:17:19 - 0:17:25] that gets your attention. So when I saw that raising up, it was already what I decided to make o
ver [0:23:59 - 0:24:05] in the trucks besides just the dri
vers? I remember one truck that went on the platform
[0:24:32 - 0:24:36] E
verything like that. The other profile I'm going to draw is going to be from the rear.
[0:27:47 - 0:27:53] that's I think that's correct so and then you know the Den
ver shows up on the 9th.
[0:28:33 - 0:28:38] some of these gentlemen that I'm working with and they you know they don't know because e
verything's
[0:29:36 - 0:29:40] because if anything's going to happen to us it's going to get the attention of e
verybody else
[0:29:48 - 0:29:54] we ran back we had our weapons strapped to our back that were
very tight, uncomfortably tight
[0:30:12 - 0:30:18] they're plastic and polymer whate
ver it is or cloth whate
ver materially make out of them and
[0:30:18 - 0:30:24] it's
very hard so it kind of cuts you up a little bit and then I remember us getting back there
[0:30:24 - 0:30:30] and I remember seeing a couple people off in the distance as far as some villagers or whoe
ver [0:30:47 - 0:30:51] gunnery sergeant that was there and I've ne
ver seen this guy before I don't know if he was
[0:30:51 - 0:30:55] attached to the ship I don't know if he was brought by any other means I have ne
ver seen this guy
[0:31:39 - 0:31:44] on their on their co
ver and then they have red patches on some of their I think on their blouse
[0:32:35 - 0:32:41] communicating with or whate
ver the pilots or whoe
ver it was so what happened when we got there he
[0:32:59 - 0:33:03] which obviously they put our stuff in but they put it into where it be
very inconvenient to try
[0:33:49 - 0:33:54] up and then he probably told him go away or whate
ver he was doing I have no clue and then because he
[0:33:54 - 0:34:00] was on the radio that's when CH 53 came in and picked e
verybody up now on the CH 53 did you
[0:34:10 - 0:34:15] I don't remember I mean obviously our point of view I don't remember looking at a pilot I ne
ver [0:35:21 - 0:35:25] was happening with any of that like where they're I remember seeing people o
ver there but and it
[0:36:37 - 0:36:41] discussing this amongst yourselves there was e
verybody pretty stone cold we were stone cold like
[0:37:16 - 0:37:22] e
verybody has seen publicly was kind of the indicator that something did happen that something was wrong
[0:37:39 - 0:37:44] tell anything anonymously to them which they already know who he is I've already provided e
verybody
[0:38:01 - 0:38:07] guys get picked picked up by the CH 53 superstar you return to the USS Den
ver correct how long what
[0:38:21 - 0:38:27] wasn't gathering e
verybody up these were higher up it could have been staff sergeants or sergeants
[0:38:27 - 0:38:32] or something it says hey you get you know you guys want to come with this or you know so whoe
ver [0:39:00 - 0:39:04] your in this stick you guys are in this stick so it wasn't like it was something that was
very
[0:39:04 - 0:39:09] well planned or they based off your skill center would chain a command or whate
ver this was yeah so like
[0:39:16 - 0:39:21] the first thing I'm wondering is like what what did the typical day look like for you on the Den
ver [0:39:32 - 0:39:37] on the ship so typically what if I can recall this accurately I mean because e
very day blends
[0:39:44 - 0:39:48] revelry e
verybody to get up but obviously we'd get up early because we were either help them with
[0:40:33 - 0:40:39] or went back and then slept for a bit or whate
ver it is um so there's always things that you can do
[0:41:11 - 0:41:16] yeah all they basically did was say hey your number's been picked you're gonna go o
ver here while
[0:41:20 - 0:41:26] better than e
verybody else you know so it was something that I enjoyed doing because I got to eat
[0:41:26 - 0:41:30] to and all the time I got better I got all the good stuff we got t-bone steak so e
verybody else got
[0:41:39 - 0:41:44] called for same duty yeah well me it wasn't really a number basis they just selected whoe
ver [0:41:45 - 0:41:51] whate
ver amount they needed they've all told us to you know this is what you're gonna do
[0:42:04 - 0:42:10] want to ship before e
verybody else did too because we're obviously working this detail so they have to
[0:42:14 - 0:42:21] off get on ship and e
verybody's just yeah you know so for weeks we were on ship with nobody else
[0:42:59 - 0:43:03] members were there so the things that really stuck out of place I were kind of whate
ver remember
[0:43:03 - 0:43:10] mostly now did you you actually brought this up earlier had you e
ver seen that woman before like
[0:43:33 - 0:43:37] other people you're with they're doing other duties on the ship they're doing with whate
ver the
[0:43:54 - 0:43:58] be training and doing whate
ver we had to do with our unit right because I know there's a lot of
[0:44:13 - 0:44:17] e
verybody there's people yeah you have an acting team leader who's just a guy fills that billet
[0:44:34 - 0:44:38] e
verybody was there and then that's pretty much it okay it wasn't I mean because really it's not
[0:45:17 - 0:45:23] bystanders that kind of o
verhook it or o
verheard you know the mission briefing essentially
[0:46:11 - 0:46:18] actual Den
ver yeah that would that is a different ship but it's the same you know the same class
[0:47:23 - 0:47:29] knowledge so it's interesting that they they had included that but I mean like just o
verall like
[0:47:35 - 0:47:41] but I think it was there was a deli
very of supplies yeah yeah go to it to a remote village you
[0:47:46 - 0:47:51] the super stallions on the Den
ver were specifically going to be tasked to go to remote villages because
[0:48:05 - 0:48:09] even what that female major was saying yeah but it's just even the fact that e
verybody knows
[0:48:09 - 0:48:13] that this is the second largest terrorist capital in the world and
very there's a
very
[0:48:18 - 0:48:22] very friendly of us and that's kind of the first concern they were having why they did things the
[0:49:01 - 0:49:07] saw gunner I ne
ver really was issued in m16 I first time I when I got there was actually issued a
[0:49:53 - 0:49:59] really the the the o
verall operation was humanitarian relief deli
verer and supplies and people
[0:49:59 - 0:50:06] like oh you ne
ver have weapons but I found a rear admiral Richard Landolt who's the rear admiral
[0:51:02 - 0:51:09] locals just like all o
ver the helicopter just like mobbing it totally makes sense that uh you know
[0:51:35 - 0:51:39] you still got to protect and have a barrier between e
verybody else because second largest
[0:52:14 - 0:52:20] think it comes down to the time zone of like whate
ver press organization reported it um but
[0:52:35 - 0:52:40] like do you remember it being the
very first day that the ship arrived oh so i mean we ne
ver really
[0:53:38 - 0:53:42] not used to that i mean they trained us on the radios but it wasn't something that we e
ver really
[0:54:08 - 0:54:12] when you guys were gearing up for the mission you just thought whoe
ver the designated kind of squad
[0:54:34 - 0:54:39] experience i can't speak for e
verybody else but just with what i personally dealt with this is how
[0:54:46 - 0:54:51] much evidence that there were definitely Marines there with rifles howe
ver there were a lot of
[0:55:23 - 0:55:30] i'm curious did you e
ver hear that rumor i don't remember e
ver seeing an Air Force colon yeah
[0:55:30 - 0:55:34] i don't remember seeing Air Force Lieutenant Colonel which e
verybody knows about that so
[0:55:37 - 0:55:43] jurisdiction o
ver that kind of operation anyway yeah he wouldn't be in a role to tell Marines that
[0:56:16 - 0:56:21] um you said that you ne
ver got off the helicopter at the airport it was basically just you know we
[0:56:26 - 0:56:31] we'd ne
ver got off right and i can know that basically the direction of when we're fine off the ship
[0:57:04 - 0:57:10] used to yeah in transport e
verywhere we did in seven tons uh a a v's helicopters all that fun
[0:57:56 - 0:58:01] the Den
ver and i only remember being on a ch 53 i don't remember any kind of other helicopters
[0:58:01 - 0:58:07] that were on that deck yeah i ne
ver really spent much time topside well the the only reason i
[0:58:25 - 0:58:30] Den
ver like there weren't any additional superstars yeah i don't i don't remember you know i don't
[0:58:40 - 0:58:44] plenty of those you know but um as far as the Den
ver i don't really recall that could have been
[0:59:18 - 0:59:27] getting remember seeing some
very heavy vegetation and kind of like hills wasn't like flat with trees
[0:59:41 - 0:59:46] always say either i think it's go to the right or the left i can't remember but um whate
ver the
[0:59:46 - 0:59:51] whate
ver side that tail rotor is not on is where you're egressing helicopter and then basically you
[1:00:43 - 1:00:49] just basically walking up and down watching e
verybody doing their job i don't remember anybody else
[1:01:15 - 1:01:19] like a technical term there's like a there's like that that means something
very specific are you
[1:01:24 - 1:01:30] hasty is kind of like off the hip is not something
very thought out it's just like okay where can we
[1:01:39 - 1:01:43] were kind of the first ones there that it'd be hasty am i paying it but then when e
verything's
[1:02:21 - 1:02:27] because we have visual around e
verything it allows us to basically act within that protocol right
[1:03:35 - 1:03:40] the reality of the situation
versus what you were expecting honestly you thought it was more like
[1:04:09 - 1:04:15] from the injection port co
ver was closed as as it states in the condition rules right so i thought
[1:04:28 - 1:04:34] perfectly like e
very what e
very single person i've talked to who was on this operation you know
[1:06:31 - 1:06:36] just more in a sense that there's a clear area o
ver here and obviously there was they probably the
[1:07:12 - 1:07:17] second you left the chow hall to returning to the den
ver i don't have a couple hours okay i
[1:07:46 - 1:07:50] i mean it was hot regardless i guess if they even if there was cloud co
ver it still would be hot
[1:08:00 - 1:08:08] sunny i just remember it being hot assuming it was sunny um and so when you get back to the den
ver [1:08:13 - 1:08:17] something we dropped e
verything off there gave them the magazines wasn't my magazines it was
[1:10:08 - 1:10:12] guys to come forward and let's say if this thing blows open and then all of a sudden e
verything is
[1:10:12 - 1:10:19] able to be proven true but and let's just say these insiders at some point e
ver do where some
[1:10:19 - 1:10:24] information comes out that's physical that literally no shit can prove e
verything then maybe they
[1:12:04 - 1:12:09] disturb any of the environment it's a weirdest thing i've e
ver seen and i wanted to be a fighter
[1:13:16 - 1:13:21] rest of their life exactly it's so distinct because this ne
ver happens right it's stumble i mean
[1:14:21 - 1:14:25] e
verybody's interview i'll have to ask other whistleblowers i personally know if he was sitting
[1:14:30 - 1:14:36] um not really interested e
verybody else was taking notes he was more interested in the fact of
[1:16:02 - 1:16:08] that's blatantly false correct i've stated in e
very single interview and even a national press club
[1:16:14 - 1:16:18] knows i ne
ver said anything like that because he was sitting right here when i was talking to
[1:16:41 - 1:16:45] why don't you remember that either i remember them taking notes and handwriting e
verything
[1:16:49 - 1:16:54] they would read o
ver like okay yeah this is what i my testimony they would sign it for record to be
[1:16:54 - 1:17:01] like this is my testimony that i provided to arrow i signed i signed se
veral documents that could
[1:17:51 - 1:17:56] to look o
ver before making that wasn't like the actual one you signed but it was kind of a to
[1:18:22 - 1:18:27] having seen in a while thanks for being a fucking dick he would he would ne
ver he said he would
[1:19:38 - 1:19:43] doesn't make sense because whate
ver mission he did obviously he didn't see the UFO
[1:19:48 - 1:19:55] no it was not nor and it did not involve aliens i mean not at all i ne
ver spoke seeing et's guys
[1:21:04 - 1:21:09] happen too which makes no sense now whatsoe
ver and i mean really the the only thing
[1:21:12 - 1:21:19] that makes Nathan's testimony have any weight whatsoe
ver is simply the fact that you're denying that
[1:21:19 - 1:21:23] you were e
ver on a mission with him because you could have
very easily have just said yeah i did two
[1:23:35 - 1:23:41] examples of this uh all o
ver of of finding like the pattern you know on a leg here and then on a
[1:24:03 - 1:24:06] yeah it's not even me i mean even e
verybody i've showed that knows me it's like that's not
[1:24:36 - 1:24:41] provide is understanding and stuff that i wish i ne
ver learned but the truth had to be known and
[1:27:17 - 1:27:23] researching the military side of the operation and in like realizing that you know e
verything you
[1:28:20 - 1:28:25] and then when i saw what you were doing and i saw the attention to detail and e
verything that you
[1:28:48 - 1:28:53] you you're well
versed in this i'm not i know what i experienced and there's other things i'm
[1:30:18 - 1:30:24] years i think i deserve the truth i think e
verybody deserves the truth because for what's going on
[1:30:46 - 1:30:51] there was some kind of go
vernment intervention with this that there maybe could people that want to
[1:32:12 - 1:32:18] kind of way i'm not here for money e
verybody knows that i think good because i'm not for that cause
[1:33:05 - 1:33:12] pivotal moment for me because that con
versation that you and i had prior to the day before that
[1:33:12 - 1:33:22] meeting gave me
very specific starting point yeah so be able to track the helicopter i knew the
[1:33:22 - 1:33:30] location where you guys were meeting um and and it just it set up a a way for me to
verify a lot of
[1:33:36 - 1:33:43] to
verify on your own accord to
verify without you even know it correct where you went i was really
[1:33:54 - 1:34:00] an extent because because it was able to at least pinpoint somebody to be able to
verify because
[1:35:14 - 1:35:19] i read people
very well that's where sales comes into i can kind of gauge you know and um i
[1:36:32 - 1:36:40] career and e
verybody uh kind of met them actually was a couple drinks um at the hotel and then
[1:36:41 - 1:36:45] we got our rooms got e
verything situated went downstairs i introduced my wife to e
verybody too that
[1:39:26 - 1:39:32] the green room and have a face-to-face con
versation which ne
ver happened and then i wake up to uh
[1:39:54 - 1:40:02] knows what i saw and would like to talk to me about it and he is a knock non-official co
vers what
[1:40:22 - 1:40:27] Dr. Greer e
verything and then Dr.
Ver will tell me what i dealt with and experience but that was
[1:40:54 - 1:41:00] so i i was just thinking e
very scenario on my head like oh fuck what what am i gonna what is this
[1:41:10 - 1:41:18] knows what i disclosed and it was
very uncomfortable i hate fucking being public but it's just it's
[1:42:08 - 1:42:13] versus just talking on the phone and video call that sort of thing like what was that i think it
[1:42:50 - 1:42:56] that he was
very fidgety and
very nervous because he doesn't know who i am and i don't know who he is
[1:42:56 - 1:43:02] so him being nervous but he looked through my background he looked at e
very possible detail about me
[1:43:02 - 1:43:07] so he knew e
verything so i know that he knew that wasn't some asset planted in trying to fish people out
[1:43:51 - 1:43:58] loves his family
very much as you should and um that kind of gave me hope that okay this guy
[1:43:58 - 1:44:02] actually is taking that into consideration which tells me e
verything and his body language was also
[1:44:02 - 1:44:07] what conveyed it to me too because he's
very fidgety with his watch he's kind of like trying to
[1:44:33 - 1:44:39] yeah he will ne
ver kill a patriot he will ne
ver kill innocent people but that guy will murder and kill
[1:44:53 - 1:44:59] these this knowledge and trust no it's not the same people these are the good guys
very these
[1:46:20 - 1:46:28] if these guys were to link up with two politicians and then give them a free access card to e
verything
[1:46:37 - 1:46:42] misinformation and all the lies and all the deceit that are being there this would prove e
verything
[1:47:29 - 1:47:35] pro-freedom pro-life you know obviously they don't like that people are being murdered o
ver [1:47:46 - 1:47:55] of disclosure and restoring o
versight yes by congress so the other reason is that these guys were
[1:48:53 - 1:48:58] family will not have a way to provide they they will lose e
verything okay if this is not done
[1:49:38 - 1:49:44] grand i'm not working with e
verybody right but the ones that i know
very well now they're good people
[1:49:55 - 1:50:01] meaning taking control of them personally getting the bad guys are neutralizing that howe
ver [1:50:07 - 1:50:12] political corruption that's going on because they have assets in certain places and go
vernment
[1:50:13 - 1:50:19] local law enforcement federal law enforcement military e
verywhere so if they're able to single
[1:50:41 - 1:50:47] e
verybody benefit from it and us as a species be able to survive also the fact that they know
[1:51:15 - 1:51:22] because who's to say I don't I've ne
ver met any of them I don't know any ET's or NHI I can't ne
ver [1:51:22 - 1:51:29] came face to face with them what I can tell you is that I know that the uni
verse is massive and
[1:51:29 - 1:51:34] there's multi-dimensional uni
verses or howe
ver this works with the theories that people have proposed
[1:51:46 - 1:51:51] this group is going to target them shoot them down in the deserts all o
ver the world
[1:52:44 - 1:52:48] and this is just speculation of course because I've ne
ver seen this personally but the way that they
[1:53:04 - 1:53:10] that's what I've been told and so if you have something that advanced in some some
very smart
[1:54:07 - 1:54:11] that the law enforcement like US marshals for example because they have jurisdiction e
verywhere it
[1:54:11 - 1:54:17] could be the one sex acute whate
ver they need to right that's just that's just technically speaking
[1:55:11 - 1:55:17] going on have access to it and it's a
very it's relatively a small number sound like e
very single
[1:55:24 - 1:55:29] e
very single person knows what's going on they don't only certain groups and that too and to
[1:55:44 - 1:55:50] spread it to you guys and to the world for that matter the other aspect of it too is o
ver these
[1:56:41 - 1:56:47] speculation but they're always refining their stuff there's always refining their re
verse
[1:57:38 - 1:57:43] oh re
verse engineer yes the ARV re
verse engineer yes that most of the ones that are coming out and
[1:57:43 - 1:57:48] this is what some of the insiders had said they are having a
very hard time distinguishing the real
[1:58:34 - 1:58:38] history with this and when e
verything does come to a head hopefully there can be some positive
[1:59:11 - 1:59:16] feel like it's my mission to get the right o
versight to an extent and maybe there can be things
[1:59:39 - 1:59:45] and e
verybody can live happily e
verybody can live evolved we can stop paying utilities because
[1:59:50 - 1:59:56] can drive around or fly around them for that matter howe
ver that comes about but you know I think
[2:00:05 - 2:00:11] some
very hard times for this to happen I don't have children but I know you do and I know that
[2:00:59 - 2:01:06] me e
verybody because what I'm saying can be
verified to an extent which I choose not to because
[2:01:16 - 2:01:21] coming forward who should not be or they're mudding the waters to an extent and they're
very known
[2:01:43 - 2:01:52] what I say if I had proof so do you think evidence is coming at some point
very much so how it will
[2:01:59 - 2:02:03] to cut it catch a lot of people with a pants down people who pretend in the go
vernment that they
[2:02:17 - 2:02:23] material or whate
ver it is that they have that's actually out and now people know for a fact oh
[2:02:30 - 2:02:36] extent for a
very long time and I just got to ask two quick closing questions if you don't mind
[2:03:25 - 2:03:29] crack that open a little bit yeah well I mean there'll be a right time where e
verything can be
[2:03:29 - 2:03:35] developed and e
verybody can sleep better you know but I just saw what you were doing a reddit
[2:03:35 - 2:03:38] it's like you know what you're a
very good person to get information out I don't know anybody
[2:03:45 - 2:03:49] you you're
very good at networking too and that's part of the reason why I'm successful is because
[2:03:59 - 2:04:06] to bring this forward to an extent or howe
ver far we can get and you introduce me to him you know
[2:04:06 - 2:04:11] which is great because you guys are wonderful guys
very good people you know so it's good talking
[2:04:30 - 2:04:35] you start to keep busy with e
verything yeah I'm surprised I'm not completely bald yet but it's
[2:05:05 - 2:05:11] right way and it comes forward and e
verybody understands it doesn't have to be secret anymore