[0:00:48 - 0:00:52] A year later, I brought Colonel Carl Nell to Salt.

[0:01:19 - 0:01:25] The problem, however, is that both Dr. Nolan and Colonel Nell, they're kind of second hand

[0:02:53 - 0:02:59] Soul Foundation talk. In November of 2023, alongside powerful figures such as Caron Nell,

[0:03:51 - 0:03:57] Similar to Nell, Kevin highlights the issue with the term UAP knocking the ambiguity out of the term.