[0:05:23 - 0:05:31] But it was Maria's next revelation that was truly shocking. She said that her husband had reported directly to Henry
Kissinger.
[0:05:32 - 0:05:43] Not only that, but that
Kissinger was deeply involved in the flying saucer program. That
Kissinger had overseen much of her late husband's work, and that he had even visited their home on occasion.
[0:05:44 - 0:05:50] Yes, Henry
Kissinger, the same
Kissinger that's one of the most influential and controversial figures in the 20th century.
[0:05:55 - 0:06:13] National Security Advisor and Secretary of State under President Nixon and Ford, the Harvard Academic, nuclear strategist, the man who won a Nobel Peace Prize for negotiating the end of the Vietnam War, but who is also considered by many, a war criminal. That, Henry
Kissinger.
[0:06:14 - 0:06:29] But if Maria Wang's claim was true, and
Kissinger had worked with her husband before he died in 1960, that would have placed
Kissinger at the center of the most secretive program in history before he had even entered public office. That is a huge claim.
[0:06:30 - 0:06:35] Is it possible that Henry
Kissinger could have been overseeing the legacy UFO program?
[0:06:54 - 0:07:05] Because
Kissinger's rise to power and possible involvement in UFOs didn't just come through academia. It started in Germany at the end of the war in Army Intelligence.
[0:09:12 - 0:09:24] Henry
Kissinger was born in 1923 in Germany to a Jewish family and emigrated to the US in 1938 to escape Nazi persecution.
[0:10:43 - 0:10:49] Henry
Kissinger was one of the first officers to occupy the barracks there in 1945.
[0:10:49 - 0:11:00] The timing of this assignment places
Kissinger right in the middle of what was in the eyes of the US Army, a treasure trove of Nazi rocket scientists and researchers.
[0:12:52 - 0:13:02] So this would infer that CIC agents of the same organization as
Kissinger in the same field of operations had already gathered the intelligence to understand the secret program.
[0:13:02 - 0:13:10] If the CIC was actively collecting intelligence on this exotic technology,
Kissinger would have almost certainly been aware of it.
[0:13:23 - 0:13:34] All of this would lead any reasonable person to believe that
Kissinger was at least peripherally involved in managing the transition of these Nazi scientists and their secrets into US custody.
[0:13:34 - 0:13:50] Whether
Kissinger knew about experimental propulsion or otherworldly technology remains speculative, but there is a distinct possibility that he could have been trusted with interrogating, translating, and negotiating these secrets with Nazi scientists as part of their passage to freedom in the United States.
[0:13:55 - 0:14:01] So the question remains, what exactly did Henry
Kissinger have to do with UFOs?
[0:14:02 - 0:14:11] Henry
Kissinger enrolled at Harvard in 1947, balancing the life of a dedicated student with his ongoing ties to the counterintelligence corps.
[0:17:03 - 0:17:10] For Harvard and
Kissinger, serving the Cold War machine, whether through the Department of Defense or the CIA, was a patriotic duty.
[0:17:45 - 0:17:50] For
Kissinger, the apocalyptic stakes of the Cold War shaped his early career.
[0:18:26 - 0:18:34] At the same time,
Kissinger maintained direct ties to the CIA, including contact with its chief, Alan Dulles.
[0:24:44 - 0:24:50] So remember, these are the circles that
Kissinger was moving in while he was still a graduate student.
[0:25:12 - 0:25:18] Once
Kissinger got his PhD, these ties were developed further, in tandem with his academic development.
[0:25:18 - 0:25:25] In 1955,
Kissinger started to write critically of Eisenhower's nuclear strategy of massive retaliation.
[0:25:32 - 0:25:37] Kissinger claimed this was outdated now that the Soviets maintained their own substantial nuclear arsenal.
[0:26:07 - 0:26:15] Walter Isaacson's biography of
Kissinger describes the most exalted enterprises of the CFR to be the so-called study groups,
[0:27:40 - 0:27:51] In 1955,
Kissinger was invited to direct a council on foreign relations study group on nuclear war and foreign policy.
[0:28:10 - 0:28:15] Oppenheimer called it extraordinarily well informed, and it launched
Kissinger into the public eye.
[0:28:22 - 0:28:28] Before the book was even published,
Kissinger had been pulled into even more elite circles.
[0:29:02 - 0:29:07] Kissinger was brought in alongside military leaders, academics, and private sector figures.
[0:29:12 - 0:29:16] This was
Kissinger's first collaboration with Rockefeller, but far from his last.
[0:29:27 - 0:29:31] Kissinger and Teller would work closely together on a number of occasions afterwards.
[0:30:08 - 0:30:16] So we have yet another close associate of
Kissinger being implicated in the hidden history of science and perhaps tech behind UFOs.
[0:30:16 - 0:30:25] By the late 1950s,
Kissinger was a tenured Harvard professor, a trusted advisor to the military and government, and a rising public intellectual.
[0:30:29 - 0:30:38] Just to recall, Maria Wings claimed that her husband had worked directly under
Kissinger, who was in some capacity involved in the UFO program by this time.
[0:30:38 - 0:30:45] This is tangential, but there is at least one document I was able to find that connects
Kissinger to the world of crash retrievals.
[0:33:34 - 0:33:40] So another UFO crash retrieval was tied to Sandial Labs where Dr. Wang worked and where
Kissinger is connected.
[0:33:40 - 0:33:48] But the questions still exist. Was
Kissinger aware of any active UFO programs? Was he actively managing them?
[0:33:48 - 0:33:58] At this point, discussing whether
Kissinger was involved in a UFO program inevitably leads us to the leaked documents that have pointed to the existence of the Majestic 12.
[0:38:10 - 0:38:23] And that brings us back to
Kissinger. If such a program existed, and if it evolved over the decades from how it was supposedly set up in the 1940s, how would somebody like
Kissinger fit in?
[0:38:23 - 0:38:31] Kissinger's early career placed him in positions that directly intersected with the roles described in the MJ-12 documents.
[0:38:54 - 0:39:03] When
Kissinger returned to Harvard at the end of the war, it's plausible that he did so with intelligence ties and some knowledge of secret technology programs.
[0:39:03 - 0:39:13] If
Kissinger's connection to MJ-12 deepened, it likely happened in the mid-1950s when his role shifted from academia to directly shaping government policy.
[0:39:21 - 0:39:31] Key players in both nuclear policy and potentially the UFO issue. For
Kissinger to be included in these discussions, he would have needed a high security clearance.
[0:39:44 - 0:39:49] Kissinger's role in Nelson Rockefeller Special Studies project further cemented his position.
[0:39:55 - 0:40:04] This think tank included many figures from
Kissinger's CFR group, creating potential crossovers between official policy and classified programs.
[0:40:56 - 0:41:04] This shift would implicate
Kissinger throughout his close ties to Rockefeller, both in think tanks and on his presidential campaigns.
[0:41:18 - 0:41:22] Depending on where you look, you'll find different claims about
Kissinger's involvement.
[0:41:58 - 0:42:10] If a secret UFO study group existed, whether called MJ-12 or something else,
Kissinger's career trajectory places him squarely within the network of individuals likely to have been involved.
[0:42:10 - 0:42:17] Before making any definitive claims about
Kissinger's role in MJ-12 or the UFO program, one thing is certain.
[0:42:37 - 0:42:44] While
Kissinger is now mainly associated with Nixon's legacy, it is often overlooked that he also worked under Kennedy.
[0:42:44 - 0:42:54] Kennedy's administration was filled with elite thinkers from different political and industry backgrounds, including several who had worked on Rockefeller's Special Studies project like
Kissinger.
[0:43:21 - 0:43:28] As Neil Ferguson recounts,
Kissinger saw nuclear weapons not as a curse, but as a potential safeguard for civilization.
[0:45:27 - 0:45:37] The Berlin standoff.
Kissinger found himself sidelined during this crisis, and despite nuclear being one of his areas of expertise, he was scarcely consulted.
[0:45:48 - 0:45:55] But once again, the campaign didn't take, and
Kissinger was unexpectedly available when Nixon came calling.
[0:45:55 - 0:46:04] Despite once calling Nixon the most dangerous candidate,
Kissinger accepted the role of national security adviser, marking the start of his most infamous chapter.
[0:46:11 - 0:46:22] It is often suggested that it was through his associations with MJ-12, or an MJ-12-like group, that
Kissinger was considered the perfect person to accompany Nixon into the White House.
[0:46:23 - 0:46:31] Was
Kissinger brought into the administration because he was the ideal person to oversee another arms race, when hidden from public view?
[0:46:42 - 0:46:49] If
Kissinger's approach to nuclear weapons is any indication, he would have treated the UFO issue extremely pragmatically.
[0:47:28 - 0:47:39] One of the strangest stories tied to Nixon, and one that raises questions about what
Kissinger might have been aware of, involves the actor, Jackie Gleason, who is famously obsessed with UFOs.
[0:48:19 - 0:48:25] Kissinger's time in the White House is National Security Advisor from 1969 to 1975.
[0:48:57 - 0:49:08] But the question will remain, if someone like
Kissinger was involved in the MJ-12, did this overlap with his duties in the White House, in international relations, or with this 303 Committee?
[0:49:08 - 0:49:18] The 303 Committee was a secret US interagency group that oversaw all covert operations, and
Kissinger was involved with it.
[0:50:54 - 0:51:00] Analyst Matthew Pines has suggested that Maumgren was, at times, just as influential as
Kissinger.
[0:51:18 - 0:51:24] And that's where, you know, where as
Kissinger was the guy who would, like, you know, walk over people's necks.
[0:51:31 - 0:51:39] Maumgren was used explicitly by Nixon to check
Kissinger in many negotiations to, like, confirm that
Kissinger wasn't going rogue on various things.
[0:52:09 - 0:52:16] then
Kissinger, with his deep connections to nuclear strategy and intelligence, likely had a similar level of awareness.
[0:52:19 - 0:52:30] In January of 1977, just before leaving office,
Kissinger sent a telegram to the US Embassy in Ottawa requesting a report on, quote-unquote,
[0:53:42 - 0:53:52] Does
Kissinger's telegram prove he was involved? Not exactly, but it confirms he was aware of Moon Dust, and given everything else that he had done until this point,
[0:53:56 - 0:54:02] Kissinger's role under Nixon is often cited as emblematic of centralized secret governance.
[0:54:02 - 0:54:11] Journalist William Shawcross described how
Kissinger controlled the National Security Council's processes, funneling decisions through layers of analysis he personally managed.
[0:54:50 - 0:54:59] As Marvin and Bernard Calb suggested in their biography of
Kissinger, apparently he had no trouble justifying these kinds of deceptive practices.
[0:55:29 - 0:55:37] For all the cynicism and warranted criticism surrounding
Kissinger's tenure, his real politic approach to diplomacy achieved notable successes,
[0:55:52 - 0:56:00] And in particular, if
Kissinger was using his knowledge or position within that hidden network to parlay or barter these relations.
[0:56:00 - 0:56:06] Due to
Kissinger's possible awareness of the UFO issue, he probably would have used this secret knowledge to his advantage
[0:56:08 - 0:56:16] And despite the decades of tension and mistrust that came after,
Kissinger remains a popular figure in both Beijing and Moscow.
[0:56:22 - 0:56:30] When in conversation with the future Russian President about their respective backgrounds, Putin told
Kissinger he got his start in intelligence.
[0:56:40 - 0:56:49] President Xi Jinping described him as an old friend, stating that Sino-US relations will always be linked with the name of Henry
Kissinger.
[0:56:49 - 0:56:56] Both Putin and Xi expressed sincere condolences when
Kissinger died at age 100 in November of 2023.
[0:57:07 - 0:57:12] So did
Kissinger continue operating in classified spheres even after leaving government?
[0:57:37 - 0:57:46] If such a role exists, it must have been occupied before Cheney, possibly by another Machiavellian operative by
Kissinger himself.
[0:58:06 - 0:58:13] So whether
Kissinger was exactly what Maria Wang described to Bill Steiman on the phone, I think it's very possible.