[0:30:09 - 0:30:14] through all these different primary sources from
Euphology to answer a specific question you
[0:39:21 - 0:39:29] and sort of a debunker of
Euphology. So he's a disinformation agent in the in the front facing
[0:39:29 - 0:39:38] world of
Euphology in that era. And Lloyd Berkner was another one working with Bush and