[1:27:25 - 1:27:31] You know that um the Air Force uh paid for this movie called Stargate have you ever seen this movie Stargate? Absolutely

[1:27:31 - 1:27:38] So you know there's a Stargate in the pyramid. It's right this portal this like time travel machine. Do you think that might be

[1:43:44 - 1:43:51] Stargates to another world sure and maybe things were getting kind of gnarly or cataclysmic and they were portals to elsewhere elsewhere

[0:44:16 - 0:44:21] Stargate and the Psychic Spy program. So they're extremely interested in this. And our friend,

[2:02:23 - 2:02:33] He was known as remote viewer number one and he was you know the most talented and most consistent psych expi for the Stargate program.

[0:01:40 - 0:01:45] You're one of the few female remote viewers in the Stargate program used to use automatic

[0:05:13 - 0:05:19] Although in the Stargate program, they did have the coordinate remote viewing methodology

[0:26:27 - 0:26:31] I think he was part of the starting of Stargate, right?

[1:00:05 - 1:00:15] There's a woman named Jessica Utsuz, a famous statistician, came in skeptical looking at all of the kind of foyered stargate or declassified stargate documents.

[1:36:10 - 1:36:14] And you have in Stargate, the Help Put Offs program, it was up for funding and defunding

[1:36:19 - 1:36:26] In the 1980s, the Defense Intelligence Agency began Project Stargate.

[0:01:03 - 0:01:05] by the code name Stargate.

[0:02:47 - 0:02:56] I would also like to go over the history of the Stargate program and how it came on the

[0:21:45 - 0:21:54] in the Stargate program and, and, and remote viewing and, and, and, and in US intelligence.

[0:51:17 - 0:51:25] the counterintelligence problem. That was the beginning before it was called Stargate. That was

[1:39:38 - 1:39:45] stargate removers giving them coordinates to go to and having to describe what's there.

[1:40:07 - 1:40:19] found there. The stargate removers. So before we get into what they saw, what did Pat see at these

[2:03:18 - 2:03:32] there he saw one. When Joe and I both worked in Stargate together same office

[2:04:28 - 2:04:38] So Joe and I are both working in Stargate and one night I have this very strong

[2:34:40 - 2:34:49] Stargate program dismantled it was told to be dismantled and they created one gal who said no this

[0:38:35 - 0:38:38] saying that there's a remote viewing program that was deeper than Stargate because that was an

[0:22:11 - 0:22:15] The famed project Stargate spent years studying the subject,

[0:44:09 - 0:44:23] it's the CIA's own records that there's been a continuing investigation into the phenomenon since the 1970s Stargate program that Hal put off played a role in SRI.

[0:51:49 - 0:51:53] Stargate and Grillflame before that. That's the other land. That's right. That the US

[2:18:58 - 2:19:02] And yet we had something like Project Stargate where, you know, and grow flame before that.

[2:19:02 - 2:19:09] And what before that? Grow flame. What was that? It was the natural. So Stargate was really one of

[2:37:02 - 2:37:08] Stargate though, is it reasonable to assume hypothetically that that kind of project still exists

[0:30:38 - 0:31:07] So people said, well, why would they spend? But look, our country did. But one of my colleagues, how put off the Godfather of the US government, the CIA's psychic espionage program. That's right. They just said psychic espionage program. Your tax dollars paid for programs like Stargate and Grillflame before that and various other names before that. Why? Because there was some information to suggest that it worked. And oh, by the way, the Russians were doing the same thing. You know, so people, people look at the US government.

[1:11:34 - 1:11:40] Like again, remote viewing program with Stargate, right? We actually did that against the Russian.

[1:31:23 - 1:31:28] if that makes sense. Does make sense? How involved were you with the Stargate program?

[0:33:14 - 0:33:18] You know, we have SRI and SAIC with the Stargate program.

[0:33:58 - 0:34:04] So the Navy, SAIC, SRI, Stargate, all of these guys are pretty interested.

[0:34:14 - 0:34:20] Yeah, after Stubblebine, Limby Cannon, all the, yes, the whole Stargate program, which

[0:39:58 - 0:40:02] And they were operating Stargate, the psychics bi program in Palo Alto, like at the end of

[0:42:15 - 0:42:17] done at Stargate, the psionic stuff.

[0:02:21 - 0:02:27] And in my mind, you are sort of the archetypal remote viewer as part of the Stargate program.

[0:57:03 - 0:57:13] And if you understand it, people, unfortunately, people in Stargate program that came after

[1:00:11 - 1:00:18] So University of Oregon and he came into studying the Stargate data very skeptically.

[1:00:37 - 1:00:38] And she goes through all the Stargate data.

[1:00:55 - 1:00:58] But let's get back to the core chronology of Stargate itself.

[1:01:02 - 1:01:06] I've heard from how put off, who's one of the founders of Stargate along with Russell

[0:02:49 - 0:02:53] He even started to talk about Stargate, proceeded to talk about how apparently there's these