[0:17:36 - 0:17:42] them that is one of the aspects of
the phenomenon that the Air Force went out of their way to try to
[0:18:30 - 0:18:35] the likelihood of whether this happened or not because
the phenomenon is so complex and so
[0:19:52 - 0:19:58] or what is that what does that mean yeah just like the depths of
the phenomenon has no ends like I
[0:19:58 - 0:20:04] don't know where you know what I can say definitively is that they know
the phenomenon's real they know
[0:25:13 - 0:25:18] when I was doing
the phenomenon that happened in 1964 in secoro in New Mexico and it's it's
[0:39:27 - 0:39:32] film called
the phenomenon and
the phenomenon was the first documentary and it was probably let's
[0:39:50 - 0:39:56] one a little bit well I went all in on
the phenomenon did you ever watch
the phenomenon no I
[0:39:56 - 0:40:00] haven't seen it yet so
the phenomenon's got intel folks it's got former Senate Majority Leader Harry
[0:47:40 - 0:47:51] people at the time telling me James you just came off
the phenomenon one of the first times that
[1:12:02 - 1:12:08] started investigating
the phenomenon I thought my best friend Renee Harris had lost his mind he
[1:30:11 - 1:30:18] well yes and I'm also and hey I believe that aspect of
the phenomenon and people constantly going