Michael Schellenberger testified about a 12-page document detailing reverse engineering of UFOs, though he wasn't directly involved in those projects. Michael Gold, a former NASA administrator, testified but lacked relevant information, and the task force he was involved with was closed due to lack of staffing. Concerns were raised about the selection of witnesses for hearings, with a preference for those directly involved with the material rather than individuals with questionable agendas. The speaker believes serious people have been meeting with the Senate Armed Services and Intelligence Committees, but expressed concern that information was covered up within the AARO office at the Pentagon. A potential global catastrophe worse than COVID could occur if information is mishandled. Individuals within covert programs are eager to come forward, but lack a safe path to do so. Tim Gauyde, a retired rear admiral, was also present, and may be operating with a specific agenda.